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Thereisnothing

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I was just wondering if anyone feels so low and helpless that they have given up looking after their appearance, ie brushing teeth, hair, washing and showering. Also jobs round the home and general 'life'?
Since my beloved father passed away before Christmas I have just lost the will to do anything and live alone so got no one to help or encourage. I have many health problems and pain which makes showering and doing things quite hard anyway. Anyone think it helps to just 'be' and slob about or is it best to try and keep routine going?
Find it hard as also too scared to even open my front door, just wish to hide away but know cant keep on doing this. I keep thinking tomorrow I will do this and that, then the hours tick by and still in same position. I suppose I feel tomorrow mightn't come so wont have to worry about it, but course it does.
 
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That's me to a T.

I get out daily, as I have to walk my dogs, and then about once a week I have to go to the shops, and replace flowers on my wife's grave.

Terrified by any knocks at the door, and I jump out of my skin when my phone rings.
 
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I wish I was there to help u do that stuff :( I feel like u could be doing better but at this time u got to that level of depression that makes u unable to properly take care of self. Part of the reason u can't get yourself to do stuff is because inside it's overly negative and punishing inner critic. Lots of negative thoughts can really make it impossible to get shit done. I'm not telling u thinking positive is going to like suddenly change this. One thing that might help is be really gentle and not punishing with yourself. Only try to do one or two things per day if that's all u can do. What is going on in your life that is depressing u so much? Usually this level of depression doesn't just happen. There's usually tragedy and unhappy environment.
 
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Actually I feel quite fine when I'm inside the house it's when I venture outside my problems start anxiety etc etc the outside world scares the shit out of me. But the lack of motivation I totally sympathize with you on that.
 
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Sure, very similar to you, and for a long time now. Showering or even making food is a burden. Can't do much - I keep getting hurt, burned, injured, etc. When deliveries arrive I'm very alarmed etc. I go out once a week. It's an ordeal. I rarely visit doctor even for essential checks that might improve my condition(s). I don't answer the phone. I open it once in a while when comfortable..

Both reactions may help- accepting it or trying things. Go easy on yourself. Some of the things that helped me are (a) knowing it's ok to be like that, (b) live only till the next hour, (c) treating myself as a child. Take it slowly. An hour (or a day) at a time.
 
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That's me to a T.

I get out daily, as I have to walk my dogs, and then about once a week I have to go to the shops, and replace flowers on my wife's grave.

Terrified by any knocks at the door, and I jump out of my skin when my phone rings.
How long have you been like this? When you go out to walk the dogs and to the shops, how do you buck up the courage to do so?
Sure, very similar to you, and for a long time now. Showering or even making food is a burden. Can't do much - I keep getting hurt, burned, injured, etc. When deliveries arrive I'm very alarmed etc. I go out once a week. It's an ordeal. I rarely visit doctor even for essential checks that might improve my condition(s). I don't answer the phone. I open it once in a while when comfortable..

Both reactions may help- accepting it or trying things. Go easy on yourself. Some of the things that helped me is (a) knowing it's ok to be like that, (b) live only till the next hour, (c) treating myself as a child. Take it slowly.
Thank you for your kind words, its good to know that I am not alone in this. I have been trying to just live the next hour or so but that is so hard to do. I think the points you made are helpful and reassuring somehow. Trouble is am scared longer I dont tackle 'it' harder will get, yet feel cant get motivated.
Actually I feel quite fine when I'm inside the house it's when I venture outside my problems start anxiety etc etc the outside world scares the shit out of me. But the lack of motivation I totally sympathize with you on that.
If I feel like this inside the house then makes me wonder how the hell I shall be on outside world. Thank you for your words. xx
 
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When I'm sitting in home all day I just don't care about anything, no shower, no teeth brush, no shaving, barely eat anything, basically just lay down in bed all day doing nothing. But when I have to go outside to work/university then I force myself to do those basic things as I don't want anybody to see my real mental state, I'm just pretending to be normal around people and it would be hard If I would stink or look like homeless guy.
 
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Hello @Thereisnothing !

Many years ago, at the onset of my illness, I went through a similar period, as the one you describe. It's a very dark place, and I am sorry you are there right now.

I can tell you that I eventually managed to get through it with the help of someone who cared enough for me to wash my hair, help me brush my teeth and get dressed up.

Is there anyone you could reach out to? I hope there is. I encourage you to reach out.
I wish I was there to help u do that stuff :(

What a lovely thing to say, @Final Escape
 
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Hello @Thereisnothing !

Many years ago, at the onset of my illness, I went through a similar period, as the one you describe. It's a very dark place, and I am sorry you are there right now.

I can tell you that I eventually managed to get through it with the help of someone who cared enough for me to wash my hair, help me brush my teeth and get dressed up.

Is there anyone you could reach out to? I hope there is. I encourage you to reach out.
I am all alone, the only friends I have are miles away. Society expects people to pull themselves together and keep going no matter what, but when you are totally alone in life and also with so many health problems to deal with on top of grief then its so much easier said than done.
 
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The latter part of 2019 was horrible. I didn't shower when in psych ward for a week. I just slept. Two weeks after I quit my job I just laid in bed and miraculously found another job but sucking at that too.
I currently am at two apartments and don't have things in order. Things are in boxes etc. Scramble to grab random clothes every day.
I've been disassociating from reality so bad I went to work smelling bad a few times and a kid called me out on it. Kids hate me.

This has been the worst period of my entire life.because job and home on the line

Messed up thingis last year (summer 2018 summer 2019) I was at my absolutely highest in my life. Most clean, organized, stylish I've ever been. After leaving job and home I loved Ive completely spiraled our of control.
 
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during my first semester of college, i had a bit of a showering problem after my ex broke up with me. i used to be scared of showering because my mind would wander to topics i hate thinking about (like death) but then i just started avoiding it completely because... i couldn't will myself to do it at all. i now have a little difficulty in terms of brushing my teeth and washing my face on a regular basis, but... i'm working on it.
 
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I was just wondering if anyone feels so low and helpless that they have given up looking after their appearance, ie brushing teeth, hair, washing and showering. Also jobs round the home and general 'life'?
Since my beloved father passed away before Christmas I have just lost the will to do anything and live alone so got no one to help or encourage. I have many health problems and pain which makes showering and doing things quite hard anyway. Anyone think it helps to just 'be' and slob about or is it best to try and keep routine going?
Find it hard as also too scared to even open my front door, just wish to hide away but know cant keep on doing this. I keep thinking tomorrow I will do this and that, then the hours tick by and still in same position. I suppose I feel tomorrow mightn't come so wont have to worry about it, but course it does.

My dad passed in early 2016. I cant even express how sorry I am about that, sending you lot's of love man. :heart: At the moment I feel fucking terrible, and I can't be there for you. But if the fog clears upp and I'm starting to feel a bit better I'll send a PM letting you know I'm here if you need me.
 
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How long have you been like this? When you go out to walk the dogs and to the shops, how do you buck up the courage to do so?


About a year.

I have a sense of repaying my dogs' loyalty and companionship to me, so I have to go. My little dog was particularly attached to my late wife, and I know she wants me to look after him. I feed them carefully and this takes several ingredients which requires visits to several shops, and I do my own food shopping at the same time. It isn't easy, but I know that I have to do it. At this time of year I can do much of it in the dark.
 
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I live like a bum basically. I don't shower, don't wash my face, don't clean my apartment, don't change bed, don't do laundry, don't cook, eat only junk and often sleep in the same clothes I go out.
I only brush my teeth once a day.
Somebody put me out of my misery already! That would be a mercy kill!
 
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Trouble is am scared longer I dont tackle 'it' harder will get,
Well that's not living only "hour by hour" ;) Just joking - about myself as well - feels the same. Really tough. I experience it all the time. Should I try to eat, or just let it go and lie in bed? This dillema alone can me tired.
I try to let it go and decide on an option quite randomly. Or because I really have to (shower eat etc).
 
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I wish I was there to help u do that stuff :( I feel like u could be doing better but at this time u got to that level of depression that makes u unable to properly take care of self. Part of the reason u can't get yourself to do stuff is because inside it's overly negative and punishing inner critic. Lots of negative thoughts can really make it impossible to get shit done. I'm not telling u thinking positive is going to like suddenly change this. One thing that might help is be really gentle and not punishing with yourself. Only try to do one or two things per day if that's all u can do. What is going on in your life that is depressing u so much? Usually this level of depression doesn't just happen. There's usually tragedy and unhappy environment.
@Final Escape thankyou for your kindness. I try and do one or two things but seem to get harder. I lost my beloved father just before Christmas, he was the only support and loved one had, I am still in total shock and numb over this. Being totally alone is so hard. I have many health problems and life is incredibly hard as it is just to function, now I cant.
 
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I am all alone, the only friends I have are miles away. Society expects people to pull themselves together and keep going no matter what, but when you are totally alone in life and also with so many health problems to deal with on top of grief then its so much easier said than done.

It is too much... It would be for anyone.
Hang in there! Thank you for sharing your story with me.
 
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My dad passed in early 2016. I cant even express how sorry I am about that, sending you lot's of love man. :heart: At the moment I feel fucking terrible, and I can't be there for you. But if the fog clears upp and I'm starting to feel a bit better I'll send a PM letting you know I'm here if you need me.
@Flume thank you for your love and kind words, means so much. xx
 
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I live like a bum basically. I don't shower, don't wash my face, don't clean my apartment, don't change bed, don't do laundry, don't cook, eat only junk and often sleep in the same clothes I go out.
I only brush my teeth once a day.
Somebody put me out of my misery already! That would be a mercy kill!
This is me as well, my place is a mess. I just don't have the desire. I'm forced to clean up only enuf so when people come over it's not completely disgusting and that I look presentable.
 
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About a year.

I have a sense of repaying my dogs' loyalty and companionship to me, so I have to go. My little dog was particularly attached to my late wife, and I know she wants me to look after him. I feed them carefully and this takes several ingredients which requires visits to several shops, and I do my own food shopping at the same time. It isn't easy, but I know that I have to do it. At this time of year I can do much of it in the dark.
Yes its helpful being winter here to be able to do some things under cover of darkness. I can totally understand about your loyalty etc with dogs and late wife. I feel am letting my dad down as he always kept me going, but know he would understand how it is for me.
 
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I just want to come over and hug u, because I know how awful this state is I'm kinda in it myself. Intense emotional pain this morning. I had a client yesterday that made feel ill after the exchange. I mean I felt beyond disgusted afterwards. All I could do was cry and try to distract myself for awhile till the feeling went away. I was not harmed physically just emotionally I guess.
 
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I was just wondering if anyone feels so low and helpless that they have given up looking after their appearance, ie brushing teeth, hair, washing and showering. Also jobs round the home and general 'life'?
Since my beloved father passed away before Christmas I have just lost the will to do anything and live alone so got no one to help or encourage. I have many health problems and pain which makes showering and doing things quite hard anyway. Anyone think it helps to just 'be' and slob about or is it best to try and keep routine going?
Find it hard as also too scared to even open my front door, just wish to hide away but know cant keep on doing this. I keep thinking tomorrow I will do this and that, then the hours tick by and still in same position. I suppose I feel tomorrow mightn't come so wont have to worry about it, but course it does.
Hello @Thereisnothing,

If you only lost your father right before Christmas, then your loss is very new. You're probably still in shock. My deepest condolences for your loss. I lost my father when I was only 21 in 1990 and it was one of the most horrible experiences of my life.
At least, until October 15th of 2017, when I lost my beloved husband and my reason to live. I can tell you that in the immediate aftermath of my husband's death, which is the more recent one so I remember it better at this point, I was lost for months and months after my husband passed away.
I was in shock for quite a while. I would wander the house that we lived in together aimlessly not knowing what to do. I was desperately searching for any way to end my pain, my confusion, and my shock. And as you described, it was difficult to do every day things like shower, eat, pay bills, and things of that sort. I'm so sorry that you are alone and have no one there to help you. You seem to be going through almost exactly the same thing I did, which is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. My own family has mostly all passed away and my husband's family was no help at all after his death.
In fact, some of them went out of their way to make things as hard on me as they possibly could. And, like you, I also have health issues which make it hard for me to function on top of all the grief and depression.
In time, you may feel better. As I said, I think right now you're probably still in shock and may be this way for a while. Just to be kind to yourself and do whatever you can. Maybe schedule only one task a day and try to do it that way. Unfortunately, I didn't have that luxury because I had a large amount of things to get done and I had to get everything done before I collapsed. I spent the year after my husband died going through his endless amounts of stuff completely alone, while at the same time going through my own stuff and trying to pack everything up so that I could move. I couldn't bear to live in the house that I lived in with him surrounded by his things. It was like torture for me. Even something like going out to the mailbox was torture because every time I got a piece of mail with his name on it, it would just upset me all over again. And I had to make endless amounts of phone calls canceling various accounts that he had, I had to go through his closets and give away items that he owned, and try to sell items that he owned if I thought I could get any money for them. I had to make all kinds of decisions about things when I was in no condition to do so, but I had to do it all by myself because there was no one around who was willing to help me. It was a complete and total nightmare and one of the most difficult and exhausting things I've ever had to do. I'm still recovering from it and it's been a year and a half since I moved to where I am now.
I would tell you to just take it easy and do one task at a time, if that is possible. If all you can do one day is take a shower, then just do that. Unfortunately, for myself, I haven't gotten that much better with time. However, my husband's death affected every part of my life and blew it completely apart. It can never be put back together in any way that would make me want to continue living. Living without my husband is too painful and difficult for me. However, your situation may be different. You may have a chance to feel better once you get over your shock. There's no definite timeline to say when a person will get over the shock because there are so many things involved with it. It probably depends on how close you were with your father and how many areas of your life his death has affected. Were you dependent on him for money? Were you around him every day?
I think the more dependent you were on him and the more used to being around him you were, the longer it will take for you to get over the shock and start feeling a little bit better again. If you can afford it, you might try online therapy. Right after my husband passed away, I found an online therapist and talked to her for about a year after my husband died. In my case, it wasn't very helpful, but it could be helpful in your case. You never know until you try.
I have many of the same issues you describe. I hide in the house and have severe agoraphobia much of the time. I only go and get my mail once a week, if that. I try to group things together. If I have to go to the grocery store, I spend days writing a long list so that I can get everything I need in one trip and not have to go back for weeks at a time. If I have to go outside my house, I try to wait until I'm going to have other things that I have to do, such as putting my trash cans out. I wait to get my mail on the same day that I have to go out anyway to put my trash cans out for trash pick up the next day. Then the next day, I have to go out and pull the trash cans back in, so I do the same thing, I wait until late in the day after my mail has been delivered and then I get my mail and pull the trash cans in at the same time. It's also very traumatic for me to have to answer the door or the phone.
I also have severe PTSD and I don't like loud noises, like the phone suddenly ringing out of nowhere. I keep the ringer on my phone shut off. Yes, sometimes I miss phone calls, but that's a price I'm willing to pay to not have the phone ring and scare the hell out of me. Most of the time, I don't want to talk to whoever is calling me anyway. I usually let the voicemail take the call and then I listen to the voicemail and decide if I want to speak to the person or not. If I want speak to them, then I call them back. I hardly ever just answer the phone when it rings. I don't like things happening out of nowhere without any warning. I don't like unexpected visitors or unexpected phone calls. I like to have a warning before something happens.

I will continue thinking about your situation and if I come up with any other ideas of things you could do that might help you, I will come back to this thread and let you know about them. Once again, my deepest sympathy and condolences for the loss of your father. I'm sending you hugs and lots of love. :hug: :heart:
 
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Hello @Thereisnothing,

If you only lost your father right before Christmas, then your loss is very new. You're probably still in shock. My deepest condolences for your loss. I lost my father when I was only 21 in 1990 and it was one of the most horrible experiences of my life.
At least, until October 15th of 2017, when I lost my beloved husband and my reason to live. I can tell you that in the immediate aftermath of my husband's death, which is the more recent one so I remember it better at this point, I was lost for months and months after my husband passed away.
I was in shock for quite a while. I would wander the house that we lived in together aimlessly not knowing what to do. I was desperately searching for any way to end my pain, my confusion, and my shock. And as you described, it was difficult to do every day things like shower, eat, pay bills, and things of that sort. I'm so sorry that you are alone and have no one there to help you. You seem to be going through almost exactly the same thing I did, which is something I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. My own family has mostly all passed away and my husband's family was no help at all after his death.
In fact, some of them went out of their way to make things as hard on me as they possibly could. And, like you, I also have health issues which make it hard for me to function on top of all the grief and depression.
In time, you may feel better. As I said, I think right now you're probably still in shock and may be this way for a while. Just to be kind to yourself and do whatever you can. Maybe schedule only one task a day and try to do it that way. Unfortunately, I didn't have that luxury because I had a large amount of things to get done and I had to get everything done before I collapsed. I spent the year after my husband died going through his endless amounts of stuff completely alone, while at the same time going through my own stuff and trying to pack everything up so that I could move. I couldn't bear to live in the house that I lived in with him surrounded by his things. It was like torture for me. Even something like going out to the mailbox was torture because every time I got a piece of mail with his name on it, it would just upset me all over again. And I had to make endless amounts of phone calls canceling various accounts that he had, I had to go through his closets and give away items that he owned, and try to sell items that he owned if I thought I could get any money for them. I had to make all kinds of decisions about things when I was in no condition to do so, but I had to do it all by myself because there was no one around who was willing to help me. It was a complete and total nightmare and one of the most difficult and exhausting things I've ever had to do. I'm still recovering from it and it's been a year and a half since I moved to where I am now.
I would tell you to just take it easy and do one task at a time, if that is possible. If all you can do one day is take a shower, then just do that. Unfortunately, for myself, I haven't gotten that much better with time. However, my husband's death affected every part of my life and blew it completely apart. It can never be put back together in any way that would make me want to continue living. Living without my husband is too painful and difficult for me. However, your situation may be different. You may have a chance to feel better once you get over your shock. There's no definite timeline to say when a person will get over the shock because there are so many things involved with it. It probably depends on how close you were with your father and how many areas of your life his death has affected. Were you dependent on him for money? Were you around him every day?
I think the more dependent you were on him and the more used to being around him you were, the longer it will take for you to get over the shock and start feeling a little bit better again. If you can afford it, you might try online therapy. Right after my husband passed away, I found an online therapist and talked to her for about a year after my husband died. In my case, it wasn't very helpful, but it could be helpful in your case. You never know until you try.
I have many of the same issues you describe. I hide in the house and have severe agoraphobia much of the time. I only go and get my mail once a week, if that. I try to group things together. If I have to go to the grocery store, I spend days writing a long list so that I can get everything I need in one trip and not have to go back for weeks at a time. If I have to go outside my house, I try to wait until I'm going to have other things that I have to do, such as putting my trash cans out. I wait to get my mail on the same day that I have to go out anyway to put my trash cans out for trash pick up the next day. Then the next day, I have to go out and pull the trash cans back in, so I do the same thing, I wait until late in the day after my mail has been delivered and then I get my mail and pull the trash cans in at the same time. It's also very traumatic for me to have to answer the door or the phone.
I also have severe PTSD and I don't like loud noises, like the phone suddenly ringing out of nowhere. I keep the ringer on my phone shut off. Yes, sometimes I miss phone calls, but that's a price I'm willing to pay to not have the phone rang and scare the hell out of me. Most of the time, I don't want to talk to whoever is calling me anyway. I usually let the Voicemail take the call and then I listen to the voicemail and decide if I want to speak to the person or not. If I want speak to them, then I call them back. I hardly ever just answer the phone when it rings. I don't like things happening out of nowhere without any warning. I don't like unexpected visitors or unexpected phone calls. I like to have a warning before something happens.

I will continue thinking about your situation and if I come up with any other ideas of things you could do that might help you, I will come back to this thread and let you know about them. Once again, my deepest sympathy and condolences for the loss of your father. I'm sending you hugs and lots of love. :hug: :heart:
Lol! I once didn't check the mail for so long recently that they quit delivering and thought I moved lol! I need to make a call to my car insurance place bc I'm worried they think I moved. That's how it is when u are just to a point u can't give a shit.
 
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So I took some kratom just a bit ago and literally feel like the intense emotional pain lifted. This stuff sometimes can be a miracle but there's been times or strains that do nothing for me. It's called green horned leaf. It's a stimulant one. Thank god I was worried that I wouldn't do anything today bc I was feeling so shitty. Nothing is more defeating than wasting entire days not feeling like u achieved anything.
 
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Lol! I once didn't check the mail for so long recently that they quit delivering and thought I moved lol! I need to make a call to my car insurance place bc I'm worried they think I moved. That's how it is when u are just to a point u can't give a shit.
True! I especially hate getting mail at the end of the year and the beginning of a new year because that's when you get all the notices that all of your utilities are going up and you start getting notices for your taxes. It's just overwhelming to me to think that I'm going to have to do taxes again this year. I barely got through it last year. I hate all of these repetitive things that you have to do every month or every year. I wish I could just do it once and get it all done and never have to worry about it again. It's annoying to have to pay the same bill over and over again. I keep thinking to myself, "Didn't I just pay that bill?". :smiling:
 
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True! I especially hate getting mail at the end of the year and the beginning of a new year because that's when you get all the notices that all of your utilities are going up and you start getting notices for your taxes. It's just overwhelming to me to think that I'm going to have to do taxes again this year. I barely got through it last year. I hate all of these repetitive things that you have to do every month or every year. I wish I could just do it once and get it all done and never have to worry about it again. It's annoying to have to pay the same bill over and over again. I keep thinking to myself, "Didn't I just pay that bill?". :smiling:

I blocked my letterbox off and mounted an outside mail box just so i didnt have to see letters on the floor .

I sometimes feel like i`m a Pelican, which ever way i turn there is a huge bill in front of me
Is this u? :)
yes a few months after my profile picture
 
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True! I especially hate getting mail at the end of the year and the beginning of a new year because that's when you get all the notices that all of your utilities are going up and you start getting notices for your taxes. It's just overwhelming to me to think that I'm going to have to do taxes again this year. I barely got through it last year. I hate all of these repetitive things that you have to do every month or every year. I wish I could just do it once and get it all done and never have to worry about it again. It's annoying to have to pay the same bill over and over again. I keep thinking to myself, "Didn't I just pay that bill?". :smiling:

If not for living with others, I'd probably forget to get the mail for weeks even though I'd drive past my mailbox daily.

I have my groceries delivered, I just don't want to leave or do anything. I do because I have to, but don't want to.
 
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Since my mum died I live in her bed like a crazy person, I don't even want to change the bed ...I don't answer the door nor the phone I don't care...eat only junk food and if I see someone on the street I just go the other way or look at the floor...
 
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