Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
It makes me feel less alone knowing that others are killing themselves as well. The survivors annoy me. They try and stop the rest of us from attaining freedom.
 
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Shinbu

Shinbu

Shiki
Nov 23, 2019
477
Back then i used to do that. Survivors who want to force me, or try to persuade me to live isn't something I like. They moved back to the pro life stance, so that's why they do that. Yeah I agree it's annoying. I had that happen to me on Reddit. I'm glad I don't interact there anymore, it felt very bias over there.
 
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InTheAirTonight

InTheAirTonight

I tried
Feb 29, 2020
475
I always search "Sodium nitrite deaths"
 
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ohhgeeitsme

ohhgeeitsme

Wizard
Feb 5, 2020
694
No, but I will now.
 
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Painless_end

Painless_end

Life is too difficult for me
Oct 11, 2019
794
I do it daily. I try to find out which method was used to kill themselves. Mostly in 80% of cases, it is full hanging.
 
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Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
I do it daily. I try to find out which method was used to kill themselves. Mostly in 80% of cases, it is full hanging.
I find a few jumpers which makes my heart soar.
 
ohhgeeitsme

ohhgeeitsme

Wizard
Feb 5, 2020
694
Dang. I just searched it, and 6 out of the 11 suicides on the first page were murder-suicides, and many of them involving children.

Well, that's depressing.
 
Close_to_freedom

Close_to_freedom

Why the long face? Cause I don’t wanna live here.
May 19, 2020
418
Dang. I just searched it, and 6 out of the 11 suicides on the first page were murder-suicides, and many of them involving children.

Well, that's depressing.
I don't view those suicides as real suicides. It's a suicide based on fear of going to prison. I doubt they actually want to die.
 
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I screwed up

Waiting for the damn bus
Sep 11, 2019
883
I check for suicide news in my country , and majority of them are full suspension . It takes a lot of courage for this method , envy people who gave the guts. In the past one year I have found only one case of SN method of suicide
 
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bipolarg0ner

The Art of Human Sacrifice
Sep 12, 2019
47
Ive kinda decided on partial suspension i heard it works better but at the same time survival instincts kick in and i flail around to much
 
lostangel

lostangel

Enlightened
Mar 22, 2019
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Yes, I do it in my country just to make it easier on my mind knowing that people around me have been set free.
 
HappyMstake

HappyMstake

Not so happy as it turns out.
May 29, 2020
170
Dang. I just searched it, and 6 out of the 11 suicides on the first page were murder-suicides, and many of them involving children.

Well, that's depressing.

Same. I just checked. The first suicide I saw was a murder-suicide. I don't understand why they would want to take someone else with them that isn't ready, especially a damn child.
 
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I screwed up

Waiting for the damn bus
Sep 11, 2019
883
Just read an article .. Couple of days back a woman in my country killed herself by self immolation. She died of 90% burns... Really wonder how does one get the courage to do it ... I have no guts to even attempt SN .
 
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voltage268

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May 19, 2019
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Same. I just checked. The first suicide I saw was a murder-suicide. I don't understand why they would want to take someone else with them that isn't ready, especially a damn child.
In some cases, in their warped thinking, a parent killing their child, I think, rationalises that the killing(s) and suicide would mess the child up so much so that they decide in the moment to take them with them, not wanting to leave them 'abandoned' - these are people with a warped state of mind. I think once they pull the (literal) trigger and kill their intended spouse or whoever, it becomes 'easier' to get wrapped up further down the path of destruction, no turning back, the ball already in motion, so they act without thinking brought on by the extremity of the situation. I'm theorising this as I don't think every parent who brings their children down with them necessarily 'hates' them, in view of their warped decision making. I remember a story a while back in the news of a mother walking out of a hospital with her baby and jumping off a bridge to their death, the CCTV footage beforehand showed the mother showing signs of cradling the baby with care. I think it was reported she was experiencing a mental illness episode beforehand.

We would all rationalise fairly and truly that the children would be better off staying alive, that they would learn to heal from the trauma in time and have a chance at life, but not every person who commits murder-suicide is going to have this rational thinking, especially in the moment.
 
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ohhgeeitsme

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Feb 5, 2020
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I check for suicide news in my country , and majority of them are full suspension . It takes a lot of courage for this method , envy people who gave the guts. In the past one year I have found only one case of SN method of suicide

I agree. I wish I had it in me to do full suspension, or doing partial was easier to succeed. I've tried four times and nothing. I didn't realize at the time (wasn't on SS then) just how many people fail at this and can't get it right. For months I lived my life thinking I was for sure going to die by the new year. Really messed up my life even further doing that.
Just read an article .. Couple of days back a woman in my country killed herself by self immolation. She died of 90% burns... Really wonder how does one get the courage to do it ... I have no guts to even attempt SN .

It seems like most cases of self immolation are protests of some kind. But yeah, that takes a special kind of courage.
 
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Walilamdzi

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Mar 21, 2019
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I agree. I wish I had it in me to do full suspension, or doing partial was easier to succeed. I've tried four times and nothing. I didn't realize at the time (wasn't on SS then) just how many people fail at this and can't get it right. For months I lived my life thinking I was for sure going to die by the new year.

Me too.
 
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Aftex

Member
May 28, 2020
57
Not something I have ever done but just did and found my old hometown was once considered the suicide capital of the uk
 
Eren

Eren

Si hablas español mándame un MP
Oct 27, 2018
1,073
It's weird, but yeah, I usually do it quite a bit.
 
SpottedPanda

SpottedPanda

I'm all about coffee and cigarettes
Jul 24, 2019
612
That's how I found this forum. I was fishing for methods in the news stories, came across one successful case that mentioned the person using a forum, Googled 'what forum did X use' and found a result that was a forum post here discussing it.
 
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ohhgeeitsme

Wizard
Feb 5, 2020
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In some cases, in their warped thinking, a parent killing their child, I think, rationalises that the killing(s) and suicide would mess the child up so much so that they decide in the moment to take them with them, not wanting to leave them 'abandoned' - these are people with a warped state of mind. I think once they pull the (literal) trigger and kill their intended spouse or whoever, it becomes 'easier' to get wrapped up further down the path of destruction, no turning back, the ball already in motion, so they act without thinking brought on by the extremity of the situation. I'm theorising this as I don't think every parent who brings their children down with them necessarily 'hates' them, in view of their warped decision making. I remember a story a while back in the news of a mother walking out of a hospital with her baby and jumping off a bridge to their death, the CCTV footage beforehand showed the mother showing signs of cradling the baby with care. I think it was reported she was experiencing a mental illness episode beforehand.

We would all rationalise fairly and truly that the children would be better off staying alive, that they would learn to heal from the trauma in time and have a chance at life, but not every person who commits murder-suicide is going to have this rational thinking, especially in the moment.

That's what I always get out of it as well. I'm sure there are a lot of murder-suicides where the person is just an asshole, but a lot of stories I read about or watch, it seems to me like they really did care and loved who they took with them and thought it was the right thing to do. They just weren't thinking rationally. I think it's really difficult for others to understand that kind of thing though.
 
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voltage268

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That's what I always get out of it as well. I'm sure there are a lot of murder-suicides where the person is just an asshole, but a lot of stories I read about or watch, it seems to me like they really did care and loved who they took with them and thought it was the right thing to do. They just weren't thinking rationally. I think it's really difficult for others to understand that kind of thing though.
Yep, like suicide as another example, when we're younger, with less knowledge of the pain of the world or just ignorant about it (ignorance isn't a crime, we're all ignorant to one subject or another), people think suicide is the 'easy way out', selfish, not taking other people into account, impulsive, whereas a lot of us here know the ugly truth - it's (extremely) difficult to end oneself, a lot of us don't want to necessarily die but the pain of living is too much, have loved ones we care very much about and don't want to hurt, are in agony every day, and don't know what else to do!
 
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Jessica5

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May 22, 2019
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Dang. I just searched it, and 6 out of the 11 suicides on the first page were murder-suicides, and many of them involving children.

Well, that's depressing.

Murder suicides are a very small percentage of suicides. They're just the most likely suicides to make the news.
 
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LastFlowers

LastFlowers

the haru that can read
Apr 27, 2019
2,170
Back then i used to do that. Survivors who want to force me, or try to persuade me to live isn't something I like. They moved back to the pro life stance, so that's why they do that. Yeah I agree it's annoying. I had that happen to me on Reddit. I'm glad I don't interact there anymore, it felt very bias over there.
They are almost worse, to spit in the face of people who are in the same position they were. I wonder if some of their pro-life post suicide stance has to do with pressure from those around them or even from brain damage from their attempt. I think it's more likely to regret that they didn't succeed and suffering the consequences of a failure, rather than truly regretting the attempt itself and suddenly realizing life is worth living. I bet a lot of them still want to ctb and are still miserable behind closed doors.
 
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Jessica5

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May 22, 2019
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They are almost worse, to spit in the face of people who are in the same position they were. I wonder if some of their pro-life post suicide stance has to do with pressure from those around them or even from brain damage from their attempt. I think it's more likely to regret that they didn't succeed and suffering the consequences of a failure, rather than truly regretting the attempt itself and suddenly realizing life is worth living. I bet a lot of them still want to ctb and are still miserable behind closed doors.

They could get sectioned if they don't say they're glad they're still alive.
 
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ohhgeeitsme

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Feb 5, 2020
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Murder suicides are a very small percentage of suicides. They're just the most likely suicides to make the news.

I know. I was just commenting on how depressing my first search was. I'm surprised I've never even thought to look up suicides on google news.
 
Shinbu

Shinbu

Shiki
Nov 23, 2019
477
They are almost worse, to spit in the face of people who are in the same position they were. I wonder if some of their pro-life post suicide stance has to do with pressure from those around them or even from brain damage from their attempt. I think it's more likely to regret that they didn't succeed and suffering the consequences of a failure, rather than truly regretting the attempt itself and suddenly realizing life is worth living. I bet a lot of them still want to ctb and are still miserable behind closed doors.
I wanted to respond, and say why can't I attempt if you have done it. I refrained from responding because I knew they would project themselves further onto me. Also what you mentioned is possible, they could have been pressured by others.
 
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