Method Any way to induce a heart attack ?

[livinginhellnation]

Is there any way to induce a heart attack to make it look natural?

 

[DT2007]

That's what i have been asking myself all along.

 

[Yaffle]

The problem being that not all heart attacks are fatal so you could possibly have an agonising medical emergency.

 

[DT2007]

The problem being that not all heart attacks are fatal so you could possibly have an agonising medical emergency.

True, but depending on your physical condition and the "being found factor". Statistically according to a german medical research centre you have a 40% chance to die within 24 hrs. If being found and taken into ICU you have an 85% chance of survival. I have no idea hiw they come up with those numbers but i assune it's abiut the factors. I think as for "natural causes" a heart attac or stroke would be most convenient. No bad feelings, just another one gone toooooo soooon ;) I'd love to die of stroke or heart attac in my sleep instead of people finding sn or anything after my passing and start asking questions about the big W(hy). Just makes people miserable who were connected to you or find you. I mean their prolly going to be miserable anyways but with natural causes they can blame ot on fat, smokin, alcohol or to much sports.

 

[Yaffle]

True, but depending on your physical condition and the "being found factor". Statistically according to a german medical research centre you have a 40% chance to die within 24 hrs. If being found and taken into ICU you have an 85% chance of survival. I have no idea hiw they come up with those numbers but i assune it's abiut the factors. I think as for "natural causes" a heart attac or stroke would be most convenient. No bad feelings, just another one gone toooooo soooon ;) I'd love to die of stroke or heart attac in my sleep instead of people finding sn or anything after my passing and start asking questions about the big W(hy). Just makes people miserable who were connected to you or find you. I mean their prolly going to be miserable anyways but with natural causes they can blame ot on fat, smokin, alcohol or to much sports.

Any drugs used to induce a heart attack would likely show in your blood tests.

It sounds like your ideal method is a Nitrogen exit bag with a trusted third party to remove the evidence after you've died as it's undetectable.


I certainly don't have a trusted person to do that for me, I doubt many people do.


Edit: Apologies @DT2007 I thought I was replying to the OP

 

[Lost in a Dream]

Eating unhealthy food, drinking energy drinks, and smoking cigarettes constantly might do it, but it could take a while.

Every night I hope I'll get a widowmaker heart attack when I'm sleeping. It's the most lethal kind, but the pain of it could still wake me up unfortunately. It would be easier to die in my sleep than plan my own suicide. It would be easier for my family to deal with too.

 

[DT2007]

I certainly don't have a trusted person to do that for me, I doubt many people do.

Me neither unfortunately. But also its such an effort to go with this method and rather not affordable for everyone. My ideal would be co2 but first if all its to cold for camping and second id love to die in my bed. ^^

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

You can induce a Cardiac Arrest using KCl, however it will live a syringe mark on your body so that's a minus

 

[Yaffle]

Me neither unfortunately. But also its such an effort to go with this method and rather not affordable for everyone. My ideal would be co2 but first if all its to cold for camping and second id love to die in my bed. ^^

Expensive enough just for the cylinder and make an exit bag, very expensive with all the SCBA gear

Agree about CO but I'd do chemical reaction with Sulphuric & Formic Acid in a GULPS machine.

 

[Spiritual survivor]

This could end up maiming u instead of successful ctb. If u were really old and already have a bad heart, then might work.

 

[DT2007]

Heart attacks are very painful, just ask the Grinch

Depending on where the infarcation is located. My mom had one and was unconscious after 15 seconds. Afterwards she told us that she just felt her chest tightening and was feeling woozie, nothing was really hurting or painful. The doctors said if no one had been around to help she would have died. I would want one like that after i go to bed tonight ^^

 

[livinginhellnation]

Eating unhealthy food, drinking energy drinks, and smoking cigarettes constantly might do it, but it could take a while.

Every night I hope I'll get a widowmaker heart attack when I'm sleeping. It's the most lethal kind, but the pain of it could still wake me up unfortunately. It would be easier to die in my sleep than plan my own suicide. It would be easier for my family to deal with too.

I'm praying for that as well! Or winning the lottery ….
Uncle Bill went out with heart attack in his sleep. He was mid 40s… lucky bastard.
Btw never trust someone who wears cowboy boots with a suit .

 

[sensenmann]

I never had a heart attack but I had a condition that is similar, it is very painful, but you can also be lucky and die instantly.

 

[DT2007]

You can induce a Cardiac Arrest using KCl, however it will live a syringe mark on your body so that's a minus

KCL intravenous? How much would you need? Never came across that as viable method yet. I know it's used widely to treat hypokalemia.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Eating unhealthy food, drinking energy drinks, and smoking cigarettes constantly might do it, but it could take a while.

Decades even.

Depending on where the infarcation is located. My mom had one and was unconscious after 15 seconds. Afterwards she told us that she just felt her chest tightening and was feeling woozie, nothing was really hurting or painful. The doctors said if no one had been around to help she would have died. I would want one like that after i go to bed tonight ^^

Hmm, I guess you learn something new everyday. So she was unconscious just after 15 seconds but only felt that her chest was tightening and feeling dizzy, that sounds rather quick in terms of the onset of how it happened. I'd love that too tonight since I already have heart problems.

 

[Lost in a Dream]

Decades even.

Hmm, I guess you learn something new everyday. So she was unconscious just after 15 seconds but only felt that her chest was tightening and feeling dizzy, that sounds rather quick in terms of the onset of how it happened. I'd love that too tonight since I already have heart problems.

Me three. Where's the 15 second heart attack when I want it? Why does it always happen to people who want to live damn it???

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Me three. Where's the 15 second heart attack when I want it? Why does it always happen to people who want to live damn it???

Gee, it's like something out there is purposefully picking and choosing when these things happen. 15 seconds and all you feel is a tight chest and dizziness then you're out and if no one gets to you in time, you die.

 

[DT2007]

Decades even.

Hmm, I guess you learn something new everyday. So she was unconscious just after 15 seconds but only felt that her chest was tightening and feeling dizzy, that sounds rather quick in terms of the onset of how it happened. I'd love that too tonight since I already have heart problems.

Yes. She was surpised she had a severe heart attac when the doctors told her. Well she died on her second heart attac years later. it was a Posterior wall infarction and the doctor told us that they are the least survivable.

 

[HybridMindset]

True, but depending on your physical condition and the "being found factor". Statistically according to a german medical research centre you have a 40% chance to die within 24 hrs. If being found and taken into ICU you have an 85% chance of survival. I have no idea hiw they come up with those numbers but i assune it's abiut the factors. I think as for "natural causes" a heart attac or stroke would be most convenient. No bad feelings, just another one gone toooooo soooon ;) I'd love to die of stroke or heart attac in my sleep instead of people finding sn or anything after my passing and start asking questions about the big W(hy). Just makes people miserable who were connected to you or find you. I mean their prolly going to be miserable anyways but with natural causes they can blame ot on fat, smokin, alcohol or to much sports.

Dying asleep sounds like the best way to go. So peaceful... you just never wake up, ideally without even having to think about it. Just another evening going to bed.

 

[DT2007]

Dying asleep sounds like the best way to go. So peaceful... you just never wake up, ideally without even having to think about it. Just another evening going to bed.

That would be such a blessing

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Yes. She was surpised she had a severe heart attac when the doctors told her. Well she died on her second heart attac years later. it was a Posterior wall infarction and the doctor told us that they are the least survivable.

Woah. So she had a low chance of survival but how is it that she didn't feel any pain but I suppose I could look that info up myself, I always thought infractions and heart attacks were a reasonably painful experience.

Truly sorry to hear that she passed on her 2nd heart attack.

 

[hermestrimegistus]

Bacon lol. smoking. Haha. Idk. Sounds like a terrible way to go. Unless its a post orgasm heart attack

 

[Gonnerr]

Take a lot of painkillers then run like crazy, you don't feel the pain or fatigue, ive tried it but i stopped before it became dangerous.

 

[girlsboysthems]

a lot of coke. but i mean it A LOT.

 

[DT2007]

Woah. So she had a low chance of survival but how is it that she didn't feel any pain but I suppose I could look that info up myself, I always thought infractions and heart attacks were a reasonably painful experience.

Truly sorry to hear that she passed on her 2nd heart attack.

Thanks . I assume it's not the same for everyone.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Thanks . I assume it's not the same for everyone.

No, it really isn't the same, kinda like how sn goes for everyone too.

 

[DT2007]

No, it really isn't the same, kinda like how sn goes for everyone too.

So true

 

[DepressedChemMajor]

KCL intravenous? How much would you need? Never came across that as viable method yet. I know it's used widely to treat hypokalemia.

7 grams intravenously. Causes hyperkalemia. It's also used in lethal injections, however the chemical itself is safe and widely available as "diet salt", since it's reallt hard to overdose on it orally.

 

[watchingthebuses]

KCL intravenous? How much would you need? Never came across that as viable method yet. I know it's used widely to treat hypokalemia.

It's not really.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1876417/

You see some crazy high potassium numbers in ER with people still talking and awake, that came with chest pain. To induce cardiac arrest using KCl injection in relatively short amount of time you'll need to inject it via central line (something that medical professionals do with help of imaging equipments) otherwise your veins are gonna blow. Recommendation is not to exceed 20 meq of KCl per hour to prevent the veins in your arms/legs blowing out if you inject it that way- that only increases your potassium level by 0.2 mmol/L per hour in that case. You'll need to be hooked up to a bag for at least a day I bet.

Potassium if used for lethal injection is used in a cocktail, for a reason. When it comes to IV meds, dont take recommendations or suggestions from people online and don't risk it (as mentioned in the peaceful pill handbook). I know I'm also just another rando online but what I said are information that are also available on Google if you know where to look so hopefully you can do some research if you're still looking into it.

 

[delayedcactus]

Is there any way to induce a heart attack to make it look natural?

That would be nice wouldn't it? I've wondered this myself a few times. I keep praying I have some sort of underlying heart condition but sadly I don't think that's the case.