Any thoughts on UK Online Safety Bill?

[Rational man]

My thoughts are they may as well shut the whole internet down. The stuff I see on some social media is questionable activity and bullying is alarming.

I recall the bizarre law of yesteryear, where a further attempt was made to clamp down on violence online in UK, including some adults who were being questioned for BDSM ' fucking machine' activity.

Sure keep your little kids safe but honestly, some kids are on the streets today are dangerous to adults too. London is riddled with drugs and knife crime, so yeh, keep your little kids safe but who is policing it. There's not enough police in our censored authoritarian UK state to manage crime as it is!?

I might have to get a VPN.

 

[Dot]

Online safety bill: why making the UK the ‘safest place to go online’ is not as easy as the government claims

The long-awaited legislation still has serious gaps.

theconversation.com

 

[Rational man]

Online safety bill: why making the UK the ‘safest place to go online’ is not as easy as the government claims

The long-awaited legislation still has serious gaps.

theconversation.com

Thanks Dot for the informative reply which I echo this too. The UK government is, I believe, treading on dangerous ground. It dismisses the oppression of other foreign states whilst it appears to suppress freedom of speech in UK. its own narration is built on ideology, that a democratic state can be oppressed wirh laws that seem difficult to interpret. No one voted for Sunak. He was installed as PM. He governs on a mandateless direction that does not truely follow his party's 2019 election pledges. He's dropping some pledges and making decisions outside of the parliamentary system.

We know from the past that these laws have been turned by the authorities to convict some people on other charges so when this safety law gains royal ascension, I expect the great witchhunt to begin in ways we cannot predict.

 

[Foreverix]

Online safety bill: why making the UK the ‘safest place to go online’ is not as easy as the government claims

The long-awaited legislation still has serious gaps.

theconversation.com

They're placing duty of care everywhere besides where it needs to be.

I hope this whole thing sparks a furious debate amongst the public.

 

[Dot]

Thanks Dot for the informative reply which I echo this too. The UK government is, I believe, treading on dangerous ground. It dismisses the oppression of other foreign states whilst it appears to suppress freedom of speech in UK. its own narration is built on ideology, that a democratic state can be oppressed wirh laws that seem difficult to interpret. No one voted for Sunak. He was installed as PM. He governs on a mandateless direction that does not truely follow his party's 2019 election pledges. He's dropping some and installation decisions outside of the parliamentary system.

We know from the past that these laws have been turned by the authorities to convict some people on other charges so when this safety law gains royal ascension, I expect the great witchhunt to begin in ways we cannot predict.

Yh

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UK usrs mght b blockd bt Protn VPN = free

 

[Lost Magic]

They just want to police the internet and silence people. It's all BS from an authoritarian Tory government. I suggest getting a good VPN. Bitdefender has a good one and you can get a cheaper serial key from Ebay than from their actual site. But if they ever start to try to take away VPNs and be complete Net Nannies it is time for the UK to stand up to the bastards. In fact it is already time.

 

[Sprite_Geist]

They're placing duty of care everywhere besides where it needs to be.

I hope this whole thing sparks a furious debate amongst the public.

I doubt that it will spark a debate at all unfortunately. I cannot speak for everyone, and I am not trying to state anything in this post as a fact, but from personal experience the general public does not seem interested in the welfare of suicidal people; the act of suicide is seen as an inconvenience to others, and any time the subject is brought up - specifically in any online platform - it is either (usually) ignored completely, or met with anger and disgust. If anything making access to content relating to suicide more difficult will benefit the public, because then they will not have to confront an issue that they want no part in helping to solve.

As an old phrase goes: "Out of sight. Out of mind."

 

[Meditation guide]

Thanks Dot for the informative reply which I echo this too. The UK government is, I believe, treading on dangerous ground. It dismisses the oppression of other foreign states whilst it appears to suppress freedom of speech in UK. its own narration is built on ideology, that a democratic state can be oppressed wirh laws that seem difficult to interpret. No one voted for Sunak. He was installed as PM. He governs on a mandateless direction that does not truely follow his party's 2019 election pledges. He's dropping some pledges and making decisions outside of the parliamentary system.

We know from the past that these laws have been turned by the authorities to convict some people on other charges so when this safety law gains royal ascension, I expect the great witchhunt to begin in ways we cannot predict.

I'm sure if a vote were taken in the UK about if people want the right to choose a peaceful physician assisted death, the majority would agree that they want that.

 

[tiger b]

Depends how that question is put.

And I'm sure the campaigning on it would not be even-handed.

As a result of that, I don't agree that a majority would agree with it - unless a lot of conditions were put on it.

 

[mekurin]

I might have to get a VPN.

I don't see why we should spend money to get around this. Honestly just use tor, thats what i do

 

[Dot]

I'm sure if a vote were taken in the UK about if people want the right to choose a peaceful physician assisted death, the majority would agree that they want that.

Do people in the UK support euthanasia? | YouGov

Britons and healthcare workers agree that terminally ill patients should be able to end their life on their own terms - without fear of friends and relatives facing prison.

yougov.co.uk

 

[Dot]

I don't see why we should spend money to get around this. Honestly just use tor, thats what i do

Thre r othr gd free vpns

 

[mekurin]

Thre r othr gd free vpns

yep i know i just dont trust free vpns. if i were to pick a vpn it would mullvad or another that has a strict no log policy but thats just me

 

[UKscotty]

The only way to fix it is to stop voting in right wing governments.

 

[-w-]

I guess it's kinda pointless tbh, but yeah, just get a vpn or use tor if you want to access this forum.

 

[Meditation guide]

Thre r othr gd free vpns

I've been looking for a VPN chrome extension that is free.

 

[-w-]

I've been looking for a VPN chrome extension that is free.

The thing is I'm pretty sure at one point a free vpn was used for DDoS attacks. So I don't really recommend them. Try to get Mullvad vpn, it's the most secure vpn you can get unless you wanna buy a proxy yourself.

 

[Meditation guide]

yep i know i just dont trust free vpns. if i were to pick a vpn it would mullvad or another that has a strict no log policy but thats just me

If you aren't doing anything illegal and just want to view a restricted site it's ok to have one that logs your activity. I doubt if the police will be tracking down people who view this site. Also there are free ones that don't log activity.

 

[Rational man]

Im online now with this free tor browser so that will do.

I don't see why we should spend money to get around this. Honestly just use tor, thats what i do

 

[wait.what]

As I've already posted elsewhere, I don't think the UK government actually cares one bit about us or Joe Nihill or suicide or the mental health programs of the increasingly-moribund NHS. If it did, it would be making use of any of the logical remedies it has on hand, such as NOT throttling mental health funding up to and past that system's breaking point.

I think Sunak et al. are using us as an expedient distraction, when what the UK government actually wants is what much of the U.S. government wants: permanent warrantless wiretapping capabilities on all its own citizens and as many foreign nationals as practically possible. Think how wonderfully safe that would be, for the current ranking wiretapper and everyone useful to him who heartily approves of absolutely everything he says and everything he does.

 

[Old Friend]

Safety comes at the cost of liberty. I'm not arguing that there should be no concept of safety. It's a trade off. But the West as a whole, with the UK leading the march, is moving the dial ever more towards safety and so our liberty ebbs away.

When people imagine nations through a figure, historical or mythical, Britian would often be imagined as Britannia or a British Bulldog. Nowadays, I see a weaselly, grey sliver of a man in a hi-vis jacket telling people to stand behind the line.