Venting Any kind of positive views towards existence are so repulsive to me

[FuneralCry]

I really cannot stand those who worship something so disgusting and harmful as existence, those who are positive towards existence comes across as so insane to me, as existence could never be something good, it just causes suffering.

Existence was just a horrific mistake in the first place and it's tragic how existing beings have to suffer so unnecessarily in this hellish world filled with senseless cruelty. It's disturbing as to how there is no limit as to how much one can be tormented so I find any positive views to be insensitive and delusional.

Existence is objectively something so terrible which is why wanting to die is all that could ever make sense to me, suicide feels like the only rational thing to wish for as only death can bring peace and permanent relief from harm. Existing fills me with dread and the thought of being dead is all that could ever comfort me.

It's nauseating but also insulting to me when people push positive views towards existence onto other people. I especially despise motivational positivity as there is no value to meaningless and futile suffering, existence was never something worth enduring in the first place, under no circumstances could I ever wish to exist in this evil and cruel world.

 

[Greyscale]

This view seems incredibly black and white to me, there's a lot of nuance in life.

I don't enjoy people who are overly positive, nor overly negative.

However, I do agree that pushing a view towards people is nauseating and insulting, but that pertains to any view.

 

[whywere]

Finally, will say what I feel so many others think, and 1st off NO disrespect ever, just an observation of over 67 years on this rock.

Everyone on SaSu has their own issues, demons, whatever one wants to call it. Pick and choose me? I have massive depression, BPD, paranoid issues, the list goes on.

You seem to either take great pleasure in stirring up a "hornets' nest" i.e., rile folks up and have them post all types of feelings or makes you feel good and helps you cope with life.

I truly feel that you post in inflammatory threads all the time, AND they are ALWAYS the same theme as this is the way that you cope best with the aspect of life.

If not, may I ask something that I have had on my mind from the get-go of reading some of your threads and posts.

If life is just so darn horrible and I mean HORRIBLE then why are you still here? I wish for you as a friend to stay around for a long time.

I am by no means a saint or anything of that magnitude, BUT I try to have a whole lot of empathy and love for everyone here and that includes YOU by the way.

If I had one request on SaSu it would be for you to get a different theme and also tone down your extreme negativeness.

I am over 40 years older than you and I have been homeless to the point of no money or food and went hungry back in 1974 a lot till the GOD given family took me in.

This thread is a retread of yours from just a day or so ago, WHY? may I ask to do the same thing all over again?

Does stirring up everything and everyone give joy and happiness to yourself?

If it is a way for you to cope, I understand, BUT could you at least be more positive and have some heartfelt empathy towards folks here?

You are a good person, I truly believe it, but to rehash the same old' same old' and makes SaSu look so darn one way is wrong as we ALL are family here looking out for each other.

In all my decades on this rock, a lot more than you and a whole lot more life experience, I wish the best for everyone, NO MATTER WHAT OUTCOME THAT THEY CHOOSE FOR THEMELVES. Life great, ctb great, if that is what they choose with NO outside influence ever.

Walter

 

[Meditation guide]

I really cannot stand those who worship something so disgusting and harmful as existence, those who are positive towards existence comes across as so insane to me, as existence could never be something good, it just causes suffering.

Existence was just a horrific mistake in the first place and it's tragic how existing beings have to suffer so unnecessarily in this hellish world filled with senseless cruelty. It's disturbing as to how there is no limit as to how much one can be tormented so I find any positive views to be insensitive and delusional.

Existence is objectively something so terrible which is why wanting to die is all that could ever make sense to me, suicide feels like the only rational thing to wish for as only death can bring peace and permanent relief from harm. Existing fills me with dread and the thought of being dead is all that could ever comfort me.

It's nauseating but also insulting to me when people push positive views towards existence onto other people. I especially despise motivational positivity as there is no value to meaningless and futile suffering, existence was never something worth enduring in the first place, under no circumstances could I ever wish to exist in this evil and cruel world.

You have the basic, fundamental wisdom Buddhists strive for. Life = Suffering.
Rebirth in Buddhism refers to the teaching that the actions of a sentient being lead to a new existence after death, in an endless cycle called saṃsāra. This cycle is considered to be dukkha, unsatisfactory and painful. The cycle stops only if Nirvana (liberation) is achieved by insight and the extinguishing of craving. Rebirth is one of the foundational doctrines of Buddhism.

You may have achieved Nirvana and with luck won't again be reborn.

There is profound wisdom in your post. It reaches far beyond simply being negative. Buddhists strive to achieve this kind of realization you have expressed.

 

[LaVieEnRose]

This view seems incredibly black and white to me, there's a lot of nuance in life.

I don't enjoy people who are overly positive, nor overly negative.

However, I do agree that pushing a view towards people is nauseating and insulting, but that pertains to any view.

Welcome to SS!

 

[Dying Knight]

If life is just so darn horrible and I mean HORRIBLE then why are you still here?

The life is not horrible when you can tell everyone that it's horrible. I think, over 95% of people saying how much they want to ctb would rather prefer to keep saying this over and over than actually doing it.

 

[Seered Doom]

I feel like I'll be lynched for saying this, though I'm going to anyway; overall, I agree with FuneralCry. The post is about those who are overly preachy and performative about the supposed magic of life, not much else beyond that. The whole beauty of life bs is enough to make you roll your eyes in it of itself when that's all you hear. Wouldn't anyone else consider this a counter to all that?

 

[myusername890]

It's so relieving to read your posts. Everyone including those on this forum never seem to take fault with life or existence itself, it's so refreshing to see this truth being put into words and to least know that others feel the same way.

 

[Meditation guide]

I wish I could reject literally everything in life, kittens, horses, nature, everything, but so far I'm stuck and trapped and will endlessly incarnate over and over as I've done thousands of times. I would be better off feeling as the OP does. It would stop all this cycling through endless lifetimes. The suffering makes none of it worth it.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

You seem to either take great pleasure in stirring up a "hornets' nest" i.e., rile folks up and have them post all types of feelings or makes you feel good and helps you cope with life.

I truly feel that you post in inflammatory threads all the time, AND they are ALWAYS the same theme as this is the way that you cope best with the aspect of life.

I think she just likes to vent, it doesn't matter if she gets replies or not (I'm not sure she reads them) it's odd to me as I like discussions with others, but I guess it's cathartic for FC in some sort of way. It's definitely a shame a lot of her threads end up with other members arguing amongst themselves these days though...

 

[Arihman]

As I said other times, I might be an extinctionist and a promortalist, but I don't blame people who are happy, and in fact, despite the ideas I advocate for, I don't wish to harm them in any way, and I really would like to leave them alone, if that was a viable way to solve the sentient predicament. Yes, I hate humanity, but if there was a totally peaceful way to eliminate suffering without even inconveniencing anyone, I would vote for it immediately. Because I really have nothing against people who are just happy: viewing the life game (and often even one's individual existence) as a negative thing is often hard even for miserable people, let alone for those who aren't. Our instincts in this regard really are too strong, which actually could be viewed as another tragic part of our predicament, as evidenced by those people who are miserable, but also driven to be hopeful for something that is too often just a mirage, a delusion, due to how addicted to existence they are.

That said, I admit that I do often wish that I could have Johan Liebert's intelligence and "mind rape" abilities, and use them against anti-choice bastards who make ctb much more difficult than it already is (and I say "more" because make no mistake, suicide is already not an easy choice due to our survival instinct and/or optimism bias), and then use those abilities against them like this:



Still, I must agree, at least to an extent, with people who point out how repetitive your threads are. I mean, why do you post more or less the same thing over and over again? Granted, you're entitled to do it, but I don't see much of a point in that, IMO.

 

[Daxter_87]

It's understandable that some may find FuneralCry's posts a little repetitive, but we must remember that this may be because she suffers from autism, which, if you know anything about the condition, causes individuals to have restricted interests. I hope this doesn't offend you, FuneralCry, as I'm just trying to explain why your words can seem monothematic to some people. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with your threads in this regard, and I actually appreciate them very much .

However, I do partially agree with some members here that there's a difference between personal contentment and the bleak state of the world. As long as people aren't adding to the misery by reproducing, as long as they aren't being destructive, they have a right to be happy. You may argue that this is delusional behaviour, and I admit that it is, but most of us can't help being instinct-driven animals. Therefore, we shouldn't be expected to be sad all the time.

On the other hand, if you're so aware of and concerned about suffering that it makes you depressed, that's fine too; in fact, it's rational and compassionate, because it shows that you take the issue seriously. If only more people cared as much as you do, we would indeed be heading towards zero pain in existence.