Method Any difference between Nitrogen and Carbon Monoxide?

[angelus]

I've heared about deadly cases of pouring liquid nitrogen in a swimming pool, or people dying inside a car because of carbon monoxide leaks.
This could mean that if the gas is in very large quantities in a small room, it is not possible to fail even if you don't use a p,astic bag or a mask.
Is this true? Can I open the valve of a big tank in the room and be sure I will not end with brain damage?
I also heard haemoglobin loves carbon monoxide and bounds to it even if it's not pure.
Does this make a difference with nitrogen?
I mean can be carbon monoxide deadly and efficient from a stove in the room, but in case of nitrogen not? Is there a problem with the air that is already in the room? Should the room be vacuum sucked first? Or some hundreds cubic feet of nitrogen can displace some 20 cubic feet of air in the room and do the job without failure?

 

[checkouttime]

carbon dioxide is proven to be deadly from boilers, gas fires, gas stoves etc in a room due to the fact the appliance will be leaking for a long period of time (can be short tough) and the amount in the room will keep building up as no1 willl know that the appliance is faulty and eventually there is enough carbon monoxide in the room to kill a person.

if you let a bottle of Nitrogen empty into a room the air eventually it will run out and so the room will become clean again. if you put a shit load of bottles in a room i imagine it might work without a seal. but the reason a faulty appliance works is that it is constantly leaking C02 into a room over a prolonged amount of time.

in the case of a stove. this type of appliance has to have some form of ventilation (eg openable window or door, ventilation) It is to do with air changes in a room. also you are only meant to use a cooker for a certain amount of time, alot of people don't know that. alot of old people used to heat there houses up by leaving the cooker on, and it can be lethal and people have died from it

Can you leave a gas stove on overnight? ... Again though, this is a no – it's a very bad idea to leave a gas stove on overnight, especially when it's unattended. Leaving a gas stove on overnight can sometimes result in carbon monoxide being emitted into the air.

 

[Ch92921]

What would happen if someone would inhale pure CO?

 

[angelus]

It deprives your brain and blood of oxygen. But it creates dizziness and headaches, etc. But if not pure, it seems you pass out without noticing. You can die sleeping. There were a plenty of such accidental deaths.

 

[hdahsa]

Both the gases work in completely different ways.

Carbon Monoxide works by presenting itself as an alternative which haemoglobin likes more than oxygen. Thereby depriving our body of the much needed oxygen. Carbon monoxide can co-exist with oxygen and still be immediately deadly for you beyond 10000 ppm.

Nitrogen on the other hand can asphyxiate only if the oxygen is displaced and if one breathes in pure nitrogen. It is already 78% part of the air that we breathe in and so it is deadly only in isolation.

 

[angelus]

Thank you. So opening a big nitrogen cylinder or even two in the room is not enough to displace the air and be fatal?

 

[mandyjohnuk]

Don't open up any cylinder without a regulator.

 

[Ch92921]

I always feel anxious when I am next to a gas cylinder.

 

[mandyjohnuk]

If you had the means then if you were to say go into an airing cupboard and seal it. You could in therory buy 5 x 20 litre tanks of your favourite gas. Open them up and enjoy. But you would also need 5 regulators.

 

[angelus]

Both the gases work in completely different ways.

Carbon Monoxide works by presenting itself as an alternative which haemoglobin likes more than oxygen. Thereby depriving our body of the much needed oxygen. Carbon monoxide can co-exist with oxygen and still be immediately deadly for you beyond 10000 ppm.

Nitrogen on the other hand can asphyxiate only if the oxygen is displaced and if one breathes in pure nitrogen. It is already 78% part of the air that we breathe in and so it is deadly only in isolation.

I've heard of accidental deaths y liwuid nitrogen being poured into swimming pool. There couldn't be pure gas build up on the water surface, since that was an open space. So if it worked in such cases, I think a large quantity of it, combined with the remaining air in the room, should be efficient considering exposure for several hours of the night. I don't know.... Or is CO more suitable for this scenario? The fact is CO cylinders are not so widespread and accessible like nitrogen. I could try with my wood stove, but I'm afraid of failure if it can't provide enough CO. Or it can produce other gasses too, causing nausea.

Don't open up any cylinder without a regulator.

Methane cylinders from gas stoves can be opened up without regulators. I know other cylinders have bigger pressures, but is it dangerous if you open it slightly? That should permit a controlled amount of gas coming out.