Anti-suicide laws rant

[Thaneem]

I haven't posted here in a long while, but I've been scrolling through threads. The more I scroll, the more pissed off I get. Every method discussed is either way too complicated, way too risky, or both.

It really sucks that the psychopaths running our government have to take a moral position on me voluntarily ending my life. This is where you draw the line? This and abortion? There's enough food to feed everyone but you let people starve. There's enough homes to house everyone but how many are homeless? You fuckers have been bought and sold by BlackRock and the pharmaceutical industry. You cheat on your wives. You make millions of insider trading. You start wars for profit. All of that's fine, but someone wanting to leave the hell on earth that you've created….that's too much.

And you sanctimonious lurkers on here trying to shut this place down - fuck you, too. You are the assholes jacking rents up 30, 40, 50% while talking about Jesus. You are the trash that wants to ban abortion with your left hand and do away with social services with your right hand. Fuck you!

Are you going to buy my groceries when my money runs out? Are you going to change the labor laws so I can do what I'm trained to do without risking paralysis? Are you going to give me a place to live when I'm homeless?

No? Didn't think so. Then FUCK OFF when it comes to how I choose to handle MY situation. I'm not hurting you. My decision doesn't impact you at all, so just get the fuck out of here LARPing as some kind of "good person" while doing literally nothing of significance to help anyone

 

[アホペンギン]

I agree 100%

 

[lwlaiet8887]

It's due to the cult of positivity and the sheeple mindset of survivorship bias. Also the fact that most societies don't entirely respect the autonomy of individuals, they believe they own you and should stop you from doing things they deem illegal.

 

[AshH]

This was refreshing to read, tired of hearing the usual bs.

 

[girlsboysthems]

feel you, i hate this duality within people. like im particulary pissed about prolife prochoice debate for abortion. i stumbled upon some videos and testimonies of adopted adults that said that this adoption thing is a whole business built on innocent children (spoiler alert it is). and for some reason prolifers think that a 12 year old girl is going to be an excellent mother to a whole ass child and in case the mother doesnt want this child they push the adoption narrative which i think might be even worse (for a child psychologically). these are the two alternatives which both bring more and more trauma and consenquentally the detoriation of the person affected either by terrible parenting or the foster slash adoption system. and no trauma is not a good thing, it doesnt make you a better person, it makes you weak, pessimistic and more vulnerable to future abuse. but these dumbasses dont understand it because they have whole ass 3 braincells and a underdeveloped frontal cortex and a big smooth brain.

i feel better now lol this is weird

 

[FuneralCry]

The fact that this society is so anti-suicide is absolutely inhumane and repulsive, it's literally evil to me trying to make suicide as difficult as possible despite the fact that only death can bring true relief from all suffering and harm.

The fact that suicide is difficult, risky and inacessible keeps me trapped here as well, it's disgusting how it's that way, it would be such a relief if there was the option to permanently be free from this existence in a guaranteed way in peace.

 

[aiki__0]

Simply knowing how cruel this world is and how they made it makes me want to leave it even more

 

[Thaneem]

Simply knowing how cruel this world is and how they made it makes me want to leave it even more

Speaking from an American POV here: the same people who have allowed for the stripping away of labor laws, for the destruction of the manufacturing industry, for not setting price caps on medication, for the allowing of investment companies to buy up and sit on all affordable housing, for landlords to use a housing crisis to price gouge massive segments of the population into homelessness…in short, the same people who have effectively made life not worth living for about 1/3rd of the population, are the SAME fuckers who want to drag out "morality" when it comes to this.


They try to distract from the steaming pile of shit we're forced to live in with free cellphones and nonsense "culture wars". Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I'm starting to think the anti suicide laws exist to ensure that these psychopaths will continue to have a ready supply of beasts to slave away for them

 

[x0nSS]

You guys are good with words. It is hard to fight such a system that is big and deep. They lose money if the slaves die so suicide is illegal. Slavery is very old but changes with the times. Iron chains and breaking rocks to sweating for paper that you get told how to use. Good message

Thaneem

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[wontachievehappines]

I agree 100%

Me too

 

[sadloner]

government keeps you alive purely because of all the tax dollars they would lose if people were allowed freedom of choice w their lives. truly disgusting, this world. they dont have morals, they dont care about our suffering, all they see is dollar signs. well yknow what they say, fuck the government

 

[Bacon and Baseball]

Preach it. a fckng men

 

[Cheffo]

I saw a woman in a motorized wheelchair, severely disabled, not just legs. I doubt she considered her quality of life acceptable. Why don't they let her go? Follow the money, as they saw. That expensive wheelchair, tens of thousands. Probably has to be fixed and replaced. Physical therapists, occupation therapists. doctors, nurses, pharmacueticals, etc. So much of the economy is based on keeping people chronically ill physically or mentally or in the prison system. They need broken people, so many jobs depend on it. It's a fake economy in many ways, they have to give us something to do, so they make us sick, then treat us, that makes us sicker, etc. That poor woman they are probably watching her like a hawk. Crazy religion plays a part too. The mainstream ones call smaller ones cults, as if they are not cults themselves.

 

[Bacon and Baseball]

I saw a woman in a motorized wheelchair, severely disabled, not just legs. I doubt she considered her quality of life acceptable. Why don't they let her go? Follow the money, as they saw. That expensive wheelchair, tens of thousands. Probably has to be fixed and replaced. Physical therapists, occupation therapists. doctors, nurses, pharmacueticals, etc. So much of the economy is based on keeping people chronically ill physically or mentally or in the prison system. They need broken people, so many jobs depend on it. It's a fake economy in many ways, they have to give us something to do, so they make us sick, then treat us, that makes us sicker, etc. That poor woman they are probably watching her like a hawk. Crazy religion plays a part too. The mainstream ones call smaller ones cults, as if they are not cults themselves.

comments like this are why I am here. You are spitting so many facts that mainstream society simply won't acknowledge. your comment is brilliant, in my opinion

I saw a woman in a motorized wheelchair, severely disabled, not just legs. I doubt she considered her quality of life acceptable. Why don't they let her go? Follow the money, as they saw. That expensive wheelchair, tens of thousands. Probably has to be fixed and replaced. Physical therapists, occupation therapists. doctors, nurses, pharmacueticals, etc. So much of the economy is based on keeping people chronically ill physically or mentally or in the prison system. They need broken people, so many jobs depend on it. It's a fake economy in many ways, they have to give us something to do, so they make us sick, then treat us, that makes us sicker, etc. That poor woman they are probably watching her like a hawk. Crazy religion plays a part too. The mainstream ones call smaller ones cults, as if they are not cults themselves.

this reminds me a little bit of the scene in the show Ozark where Jonah talks about how drug money/drug trade kept the global economy afloat during the 2008 financial crisis. the sick people trade, that you alluded to, couldn't have been too far behind, in keeping the economy propped up

 

[Thaneem]

I saw a woman in a motorized wheelchair, severely disabled, not just legs. I doubt she considered her quality of life acceptable. Why don't they let her go? Follow the money, as they saw. That expensive wheelchair, tens of thousands. Probably has to be fixed and replaced. Physical therapists, occupation therapists. doctors, nurses, pharmacueticals, etc. So much of the economy is based on keeping people chronically ill physically or mentally or in the prison system. They need broken people, so many jobs depend on it. It's a fake economy in many ways, they have to give us something to do, so they make us sick, then treat us, that makes us sicker, etc. That poor woman they are probably watching her like a hawk. Crazy religion plays a part too. The mainstream ones call smaller ones cults, as if they are not cults themselves.

Right…this is exactly what I'm talking about. It's like the mafia: if someone owes you money, don't kill them. Slowly bleed them dry. The euthanized aren't able to make the corrupt state and medical industry any money, so let's deprive grown ass men and women of the ability to make their own choices because of….Jesus or something, I guess?


We live in this absolutely absurd society where there is enough for everyone, but a tiny group has decided that making billions for themselves is preferable to living in a society that actually behaves LIKE a society. Like, if we're not going to help each other, wtf is the point of even having a society in the first place?


The answer, of course is, "so I can get mine". This is the sick mentality of the "moral justice warriors" who want to shut places like this down. Your whole existence revolves around "getting what's yours", idealizing the masters who OWN you, mocking and blaming the people who suffer because of the sheltered mentality you have, and then deciding that because the worst thing you've ever suffered is overdrawing your checking account one time, everyone else should be able to "get over" their traumas as easily as you have.

 

[Obliviate]

Perfectly said. Unfortunately things won't change atleast not in our life time.

 

[AlouA]

I haven't posted here in a long while, but I've been scrolling through threads. The more I scroll, the more pissed off I get. Every method discussed is either way too complicated, way too risky, or both.

It really sucks that the psychopaths running our government have to take a moral position on me voluntarily ending my life. This is where you draw the line? This and abortion? There's enough food to feed everyone but you let people starve. There's enough homes to house everyone but how many are homeless? You fuckers have been bought and sold by BlackRock and the pharmaceutical industry. You cheat on your wives. You make millions of insider trading. You start wars for profit. All of that's fine, but someone wanting to leave the hell on earth that you've created….that's too much.

And you sanctimonious lurkers on here trying to shut this place down - fuck you, too. You are the assholes jacking rents up 30, 40, 50% while talking about Jesus. You are the trash that wants to ban abortion with your left hand and do away with social services with your right hand. Fuck you!

Are you going to buy my groceries when my money runs out? Are you going to change the labor laws so I can do what I'm trained to do without risking paralysis? Are you going to give me a place to live when I'm homeless?

No? Didn't think so. Then FUCK OFF when it comes to how I choose to handle MY situation. I'm not hurting you. My decision doesn't impact you at all, so just get the fuck out of here LARPing as some kind of "good person" while doing literally nothing of significance to help anyone

THIS! i totally agree with you

 

[locked*n*loaded]

They lose money if the slaves die so suicide is illegal.

Actually, suicide in the US is not illegal, per say. Can't speak for elsewhere.

 

[Thaneem]

You guys are good with words. It is hard to fight such a system that is big and deep. They lose money if the slaves die so suicide is illegal. Slavery is very old but changes with the times. Iron chains and breaking rocks to sweating for paper that you get told how to use. Good message

Thaneem

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In serfdom, you work 1/2 the day for yourself and the other half for your lord. In this system, you do literally the same thing or worse. After all, if you were paid for the full value of your labor, how would your lord/boss make a profit?

They say payroll is the biggest expenditure of a business, but in reality it's the opposite. It's the purchasing of a service (labor) for a fraction of its actual value. That's what "profit" actually is

 

[x0nSS]

In serfdom, you work 1/2 the day for yourself and the other half for your lord. In this system, you do literally the same thing or worse. After all, if you were paid for the full value of your labor, how would your lord/boss make a profit?

They say payroll is the biggest expenditure of a business, but in reality it's the opposite. It's the purchasing of a service (labor) for a fraction of its actual value. That's what "profit" actually is

I read your words and want to agree. I say this not to say you are wrong but that its what you say plus everything else in life. Living is hard and some people are part of lives that gain by taking from others. Your words on profit show this.
What I want to say is profit is just one of the many whips we get hit with.

 

[Thaneem]

I read your words and want to agree. I say this not to say you are wrong but that its what you say plus everything else in life. Living is hard and some people are part of lives that gain by taking from others. Your words on profit show this.
What I want to say is profit is just one of the many whips we get hit with.

Well, it's always profit. The boss profits off of his slave. The rapist profits off the one he violates. The virus profits off of the cells it destroys.

They are all the same thing. You could say it's not so much a whip as a scourge...many whips attached to one body

 

[Secrets1]

Great post. We're too kind & don't like to place punishment on others. I wonder if the day will come where we revolt em mass instead of personally focusing on CTB, with literally nothing to lose or fear in that mindset, and how society would respond

 

[Thaneem]

Great post. We're too kind & don't like to place punishment on others. I wonder if the day will come where we revolt em mass instead of personally focusing on CTB, with literally nothing to lose or fear in that mindset, and how society would respond

Well...you read my mind.

 

[darknesscomesquick]

I haven't posted here in a long while, but I've been scrolling through threads. The more I scroll, the more pissed off I get. Every method discussed is either way too complicated, way too risky, or both.

It really sucks that the psychopaths running our government have to take a moral position on me voluntarily ending my life. This is where you draw the line? This and abortion? There's enough food to feed everyone but you let people starve. There's enough homes to house everyone but how many are homeless? You fuckers have been bought and sold by BlackRock and the pharmaceutical industry. You cheat on your wives. You make millions of insider trading. You start wars for profit. All of that's fine, but someone wanting to leave the hell on earth that you've created….that's too much.

And you sanctimonious lurkers on here trying to shut this place down - fuck you, too. You are the assholes jacking rents up 30, 40, 50% while talking about Jesus. You are the trash that wants to ban abortion with your left hand and do away with social services with your right hand. Fuck you!

Are you going to buy my groceries when my money runs out? Are you going to change the labor laws so I can do what I'm trained to do without risking paralysis? Are you going to give me a place to live when I'm homeless?

No? Didn't think so. Then FUCK OFF when it comes to how I choose to handle MY situation. I'm not hurting you. My decision doesn't impact you at all, so just get the fuck out of here LARPing as some kind of "good person" while doing literally nothing of significance to help anyone

Well Said!!!