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PaYo

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I know that after life can be true. I'm not saying that it is, i'm just saying that science is blind for a whole bunch of unexplained things. Like telekinesis and telepathy. Do you think the same?
 
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Why we need another one
 
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PaYo

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coz its mine and i want to pick a little things i have in mind, and look at it from different perspective, maybe
 
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Tearygirl

I hate being alone. So please don't leave me.
Dec 1, 2019
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I suffered for too long in this life. I don't want to "live" even after I died.
 
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PaYo

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I suffered for too long in this life. I don't want to "live" even after I died.
Comparing this to my knowledge there is no death, in death you will feels like you wake up from a dream, and this life fades out, and your problems people you knew and not longer important anymore. Its like waking up from a dream, you simply forgetting what have you dreamed. You might go back to certain problems from this life in the next one, coz of karma, but its like, new opportunities to resolve them. With new fresh mind and new people around you.

PS. how do you know it isn't you 283746283628 suicide in a row?

in death there is no one planet or one universe you can chose from infinite numbers of parallel universes, different versions of planets and your future incarnates. But if everything is you know bound to you, you can chose consciously only one thing, the rest of the universe that come to existence with your next appearance comes with your agreements with different beings across your entire soul life
 
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Tearygirl

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Dec 1, 2019
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Comparing this to my knowledge there is no death, in death you will feels like you wake up from a dream, and this life fades out, and your problems people you knew and not longer important anymore. Its like waking up from a dream, you simply forgetting what have you dreamed. You might go back to certain problems from this life in the next one, coz of karma, but its like, new opportunities to resolve them. With new fresh mind and new people around you.

PS. how do you know it isn't you 283746283628 suicide in a row?

in death there is no one planet or one universe you can chose from infinite numbers of parallel universes, different versions of planets and your future incarnates. But if everything is you know bound to you, you can chose consciously only one thing, the rest of the universe that come to existence with your next appearance comes with your agreements with different beings across your entire soul life
It's too hard subject for me. But how can we define a presence as "same" being? I think you're saying about reincarnation. If a person reincarnated by something? Are they the same being?
 
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PaYo

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YES and NO, you have the same felling of I. IM and you know, in bible the god is written as "I AM" because god is simple and existence. That's why scientist have problems with universe, why something and no nothing. Because. EVERYTHING ALREADY EXIST. AND NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. NOTHING CAN'T EXIST, SO EVERYTHING ALREADY EXIST. Past, present, future, everything is already done. We the "I" felling it is the time traveling factor. And its never ends. Even in death.

My friend compared Death to really awesome LSD trip. Everything you have done in this life will have impact on your death. And your future decisions. You can go back to your next life on the planet,or try to visit different less material world, where your thoughts manifest in a matter of NOW.


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I like to saying, that world have only ONE factor - TO EXIST. And you are part of it. so you are eternal, as the world are. And dont be worry, you aready died infinite number of times and will be living infinite number of lives. Always the same, boring life :D hehe
And by the way, you are me in different life, we are one being. Just for you to know
 
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Tearygirl

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YES and NO, you have the same felling of I. IM and you know, in bible the god is written as "I AM" because god is simple and existence. That's why scientist have problems with universe, why something and no nothing. Because. EVERYTHING ALREADY EXIST. AND NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. NOTHING CAN'T EXIST, SO EVERYTHING ALREADY EXIST. Past, present, future, everything is already done. We the "I" felling it is the time traveling factor. And its never ends. Even in death.

My friend compared Death to really awesome LSD trip. Everything you have done in this life will have impact on your death. And your future decisions. You can go back to your next life on the planet,or try to visit different less material world, where your thoughts manifest in a matter of NOW.


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I like to saying, that world have only ONE factor - TO EXIST. And you are part of it. so you are eternal, as the world are. And dont be worry, you aready died infinite number of times and will be living infinite number of lives. Always the same, boring life :D hehe
And by the way, you are me in different life, we are one being. Just for you to know
I respect your idea. Everyone can have different views for afterlife. Whether it exists or not, and the kind of afterlife.
 
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PaYo

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ofc its only a view. Build on loots of taking mushrooms and reading about LSD. I was into NLP and spiritualism. I was meditating and making self hypnosis. Doing OOBE (never successfuly) and working on my subconsciousness.

I know why miracles happens and no one believe them.

I know that past can be rewritten as something never existed.

I have done things that aren't possible, that Jesus could do. If he really existed.

I did siddhi couple times in my life. AND I KNOW THAT LIFE ISN'T WHAT WE ARE BEING TOLD! I KNOW HOW THIS WORKS! (if there is someone to listen)







Just ask me question and ill be answearing! I think this will be the beast idea! Kay? Everyone just one question. At once.
 
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OneBigBlur

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Nov 30, 2019
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I like to saying, that world have only ONE factor - TO EXIST. And you are part of it. so you are eternal, as the world are. And dont be worry, you aready died infinite number of times and will be living infinite number of lives. Always the same, boring life :D hehe
And by the way, you are me in different life, we are one being. Just for you to know

No, fucking, thanks. This is probably one of the most horrifying thoughts I've ever though about in terms of the "afterlife". Being endlessly reborn on this planet would be even more of a Hell than it already is.
 
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WhyIsLife56

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What's with the obsession with the afterlife? If there was such thing, death wouldn't even be a concept
 
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PaYo

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No, fucking, thanks. This is probably one of the most horrifying thoughts I've ever though about in terms of the "afterlife". Being endlessly reborn on this planet would be even more of a Hell than it already is.
Okay first of it, that no need to be this planet. No need to be this time. It can be also past and the future, and also DIFFERENT VERSION OF THIS PLANET WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT HISTORY AND DUNNO MAYBE EVEN BLACK DISNEY PRINCESS. YOU CAN CHOSE. to some degree.

And why is that horrifying? Your beliefs that this is horrifying will transform in death to laugh after death. With such a beliefs, you will feel relief after death, most likely.



What's with the obsession with the afterlife? If there was such thing, death wouldn't even be a concept
It's not a obsession. I was just interested in mind development, while meditating i just understand everything and i know that this world gone wrong. This should be teached at sql. But it isn't. At least in our society. THIS IS BIG!

Why death is a concept? Because of years of tradition. Because of taking knowledge from the ancestors and filtering them through new filters. Society is complicated. More complicated that boeing 747. Can't tell you why we don't believe in transition but in death but it have something with identifying yourself with body. Body dead, you dead. But you are not only your body. YOUR ARE THE UNIVERSE. this body is simple an antenna, that identifying with other selves in other bodys. making the illusory concept of separation.
If you could see what i saw. You would just know.
 
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OneBigBlur

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Nov 30, 2019
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Okay first of it, that no need to be this planet. No need to be this time. It can be also past and the future, and also DIFFERENT VERSION OF THIS PLANET WITH DIFFERENT PEOPLE AND DIFFERENT HISTORY AND DUNNO MAYBE EVEN BLACK DISNEY PRINCESS. YOU CAN CHOSE. to some degree.

And why is that horrifying? Your beliefs that this is horrifying will transform in death to laugh after death. With such a beliefs, you will feel relief after death, most likely.

Anything based in the reality we live in is horrifying. Life is brutal even for people who are born into fortunate circumstances. If there's such a place as Heaven, great, but existing within the confines of this reality is a nightmare.
 
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I like to saying, that world have only ONE factor - TO EXIST. And you are part of it. so you are eternal, as the world are. And dont be worry, you aready died infinite number of times and will be living infinite number of lives. Always the same, boring life :D hehe
And by the way, you are me in different life, we are one being. Just for you to know

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is you just decribed hell.
 
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PaYo

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Anything based in the reality we live in is horrifying. Life is brutal even for people who are born into fortunate circumstances. If there's such a place as Heaven, great, but existing within the confines of this reality is a nightmare.
well that is your opinion.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Mine is you just decribed hell.
well the reality is EVERYTHING THAT IS, ITS CONTAIN THE BEST MOMENTS AND THE WORST, AND YOU ALREADY LIVED THEM ALL, AND WILL BE LIVING THEM ALL FOR EVER.

look at the bright side, maybe eons from now you will be justin freakin bieber :D hehe
I think the paradox is that even if you lived infinite amount of lives, the world containing so many choices that you still have in front of you infinite DIFFERENT lives.

And you cant go back to exact the same lives you lived before. But yet different you lives different versions of you in different dimensions. There are infinite souls of "you" that have similar problems that is impossible for you to meet it.

After death world is peaceful, and eternal. Its like... being an ant, you just do thing and not thinking about it like a human being. Even in death ant is calm like water ina pond
 
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PaYo

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You might like this guy


maybe his perspective on beliefs will help someone (click on youtube label there is entire playlist)
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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I was watching this video some hours ago. Just wanna share it

 
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PaYo

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Jul 28, 2018
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I always thought that grown up people know that there is no life after death, and now i know that this is not true. Adult are also lost in this space as we are. We just don't know it for sure.
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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I always thought that grown up people know that there is no life after death, and now i know that this is not true. Adult are also lost in this space as we are. We just don't know it for sure.
I watched this video yesterday and made feel more relaxed about death and I'm fearing less. The more I watch these videos the more confortable I feel about the idea of dying.

 
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PaYo

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Jul 28, 2018
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well i don't know if THE "feeling of I" remain after death for sure, that's my belief. But i know one thing. Karma and destiny are real. At least as a permission slips. Permission slip is something you think you need to grow. Until you grasp it and you no longer deprived of it and suddenly you have feeling of being alright. Thats what should be done.

Life simply needs to be lived. If you are holding up to life, you will feel depressed. And want to kill yourself to no feel, trapped.
 
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Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
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We need a thread about the series
 
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Thereisnothing

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@PaYo I am a believer in life after death and all sorts of other realms so I can fully appreciate all you are trying to convey. Its always a mixed opinion as with anything in life, but for you and I its what we believe and have done alot of research into and that is what helps us. It helps me greatly even live this life to know (in my opinion) that its not the only existence. I dont feel spirit can just stop being. We dont even know a fraction of our Universe so would be very basic thinking of anyone to believe they knew all the answers. I feel confident in my beliefs and that is good enough for me, as I know it is for you. I cant 'prove' much of what I believe, but doesn't mean its not apparent. We cant see oxygen, yet its all around us, I like to think of spirit in this way.
 
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BabyYoda

F*ck this sh!t I'm out
Dec 30, 2019
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My ideal afterlife would either be a perfect world with no suffering or the void of nothingness
 
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PaYo

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223
My ideal afterlife would either be a perfect world with no suffering or the void of nothingness
accualy thats not the case, you are in heaven right now. Its all about your inner state that determines your experience of reality,

@PaYo I am a believer in life after death and all sorts of other realms so I can fully appreciate all you are trying to convey. Its always a mixed opinion as with anything in life, but for you and I its what we believe and have done alot of research into and that is what helps us. It helps me greatly even live this life to know (in my opinion) that its not the only existence. I dont feel spirit can just stop being. We dont even know a fraction of our Universe so would be very basic thinking of anyone to believe they knew all the answers. I feel confident in my beliefs and that is good enough for me, as I know it is for you. I cant 'prove' much of what I believe, but doesn't mean its not apparent. We cant see oxygen, yet its all around us, I like to think of spirit in this way.

in my case i am not only making my statements from intearnet searching and talks, but from psychedelic experience, i have experienced, being one with someone. I know that I am YOU! There is no one but me and I am the only person in the universe, but in my state of mind, my reality creates other people. And its creating me, as some indywidual person. I know it make no sense to you, but when you took psychedelics, and your consciousness is elevated to a moment, when someone says what you were thinking for an hour, you know this is not crucial. This is ordinary world, with different ordinary things, and you just have loots in common with that person. yeah, that what could you think, but is that right?
 

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