Amitriptyline Combo Comments?

[YosemiteGrrl]

I am considering switching from an SN protocol to Amitriptyline. Will you kindly comment on the protocol below? I have modified it from my previous post. And will this work as a reliable alternative compared to DDAMPH? I can't source the morphine & phenobarbital.

Fast 8 hours

1. Meto 3x10 mg on empty stomach

2. Wait 40 min

3. Tagamet-400mg.(?) Wait 30 min.

4. Drink crushed up Ami 9g in water
(using oral topical anesthesic in mouth, tongue
and drink with straw to help with bitter taste)

Wait 20 minutes? Too long?

5. Take 450 mg Diazapam, 15 mg Lorazepam (crushed in little water)

6. 3x20 mg Propranolol (slightly ease anxiety)

7. 4 shots of vodka

8. Lay back on right side

What do I do if I vomit? Minimum Ami needed in body to likely cause the cardiac arrest? And should I take some of the diazapam before the AMI to relax me?

Peaceful, fast and reliable?

@007Bob

I am considering switching from an SN protocol to Amitriptyline. Will you kindly comment on the protocol below? I have modified it from my previous post. And will this work as a reliable alternative compared to DDAMPH? I can't source the morphine & phenobarbital.

Fast 8 hours

1. Meto 3x10 mg on empty stomach

2. Wait 40 min

3. Tagamet-400mg.(?) Wait 30 min.

4. Drink crushed up Ami 9g in water
(using oral topical anesthesic in mouth, tongue
and drink with straw to help with bitter taste)

Wait 20 minutes? Too long?

5. Take 450 mg Diazapam, 15 mg Lorazepam (crushed in little water)

6. 3x20 mg Propranolol (slightly ease anxiety)

7. 4 shots of vodka

8. Lay back on right side

What do I do if I vomit? Minimum Ami needed in body to likely cause the cardiac arrest? And should I take some of the diazapam before the AMI to relax me?

Peaceful, fast and reliable?

@007Bob

@Goku Black

 

[007Bob]

I am considering switching from an SN protocol to Amitriptyline. Will you kindly comment on the protocol below? I have modified it from my previous post. And will this work as a reliable alternative compared to DDAMPH? I can't source the morphine & phenobarbital.

Fast 8 hours

1. Meto 3x10 mg on empty stomach

2. Wait 40 min

3. Tagamet-400mg.(?) Wait 30 min.

4. Drink crushed up Ami 9g in water
(using oral topical anesthesic in mouth, tongue
and drink with straw to help with bitter taste)

Wait 20 minutes? Too long?

5. Take 450 mg Diazapam, 15 mg Lorazepam (crushed in little water)

6. 3x20 mg Propranolol (slightly ease anxiety)

7. 4 shots of vodka

8. Lay back on right side

What do I do if I vomit? Minimum Ami needed in body to likely cause the cardiac arrest? And should I take some of the diazapam before the AMI to relax me?

Peaceful, fast and reliable?

@007Bob

@Goku Black

Why are you considering switching from SN to AMI?

DDMA asked for 8gm of Amitripyline. Amitriptyline increases the heart. Propranolol decreases the heart. I don't know what's the effect of mixing both. If you vomit, the PPH book recommends to stop the attempt. (While with SN, people on this platform recommend to have another glass handy). The PPH book lists AMI as a peaceful way to go but there is no associated protocol. FYI, the PPH book rates SN as a superior method versus AMI (rating factor screenshot from PPH book attached).

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I would follow what the PPeH suggests as closely as possible.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

The 2022 Version suggests 8-10g.

 

[JensenX]

Which version of the PPH is this? The 2022 Version suggests 8-10g. This is probably and older version.

This is the 2016 edition. I don't have the update. I was planning to increase it just to be sure.

Why are you considering switching from SN to AMI?

DDMA asked for 8gm of Amitripyline. Amitriptyline increases the heart. Propranolol decreases the heart. I don't know what's the effect of mixing both. If you vomit, the PPH book recommends to stop the attempt. (While with SN, people on this platform recommend to have another glass handy). The PPH book lists AMI as a peaceful way to go but there is no associated protocol. FYI, the PPH book rates SN as a superior method versus AMI (rating factor screenshot from PPH book attached).

There is no SN method in the 2016 edition, but there's a detailed protocol written up in this forum which I had a look at.

That's interesting, the reliability of AMI has been reduced from 9 to 6. I'm definitely not happy with a 6.

I deleted my post above as I don't want to be giving out incorrect info.

 

[121792]

I am considering switching from an SN protocol to Amitriptyline. Will you kindly comment on the protocol below? I have modified it from my previous post. And will this work as a reliable alternative compared to DDAMPH? I can't source the morphine & phenobarbital.

Fast 8 hours

1. Meto 3x10 mg on empty stomach

2. Wait 40 min

3. Tagamet-400mg.(?) Wait 30 min.

4. Drink crushed up Ami 9g in water
(using oral topical anesthesic in mouth, tongue
and drink with straw to help with bitter taste)

Wait 20 minutes? Too long?

5. Take 450 mg Diazapam, 15 mg Lorazepam (crushed in little water)

6. 3x20 mg Propranolol (slightly ease anxiety)

7. 4 shots of vodka

8. Lay back on right side

What do I do if I vomit? Minimum Ami needed in body to likely cause the cardiac arrest? And should I take some of the diazapam before the AMI to relax me?

Peaceful, fast and reliable?

@007Bob

@Goku Black

If you vomit you'd have the drugs out of your system and so you'd survive I'm assuming, unharmed. I'm just afraid of having to go to the hospital and then the mental hospital.
The reliability being 6 isn't great. Surely if you just do what they tell you in the book you'll be successful as otherwise why would they mention it.

What happens after you take the benzos? You hopefully fall asleep... but then you'd wake up a few hours later and still be waiting to die as it said it can take 12 to 48 hours to die.

 

[JensenX]

Which version of the PPH is this? The 2022 Version suggests 8-10g.

I've since read the 2022 PPH section on SN, so it's back to SN again now.

Do you know of any way to test SN at home? I'd be ordering SN that comes from China, so for all I know, I'm getting a 1kg bag of table salt. How can we be sure we're getting the real deal?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I've since read the 2022 PPH section on SN, so it's back to SN again now.

Do you know of any way to test SN at home? I'd be ordering SN that comes from China, so for all I know, I'm getting a 1kg bag of table salt. How can we be sure we're getting the real deal?

I've edited my post above. You can do it with the aquarium test. See this SN Guide here (Vizzy's SN Bible):

SN Bible Sodium Nitrite Method (Comprehensive Guide SN Method)

Sodium Nitrite (SN) Method Introduction This document is a compilation of different sn information, members inputs, important posts related to sn, recorded suicide cases related to sn, different research on sn and so on. This document also give a full understanding of SN, what it is, how it...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[JensenX]

The 2022 Version suggests 8-10g.

Just some more information here. I got hold of the 2022 PPeH and read the section about Ami. 10 grams is recommended as a stand-alone drug. 8 grams is recommended as part of the 5-drug protocol.

That's quite a jump from the 5 grams recommended in 2016.

 

[YosemiteGrrl]

If you vomit you'd have the drugs out of your system and so you'd survive I'm assuming, unharmed. I'm just afraid of having to go to the hospital and then the mental hospital.
The reliability being 6 isn't great. Surely if you just do what they tell you in the book you'll be successful as otherwise why would they mention it.

What happens after you take the benzos? You hopefully fall asleep... but then you'd wake up a few hours later and still be waiting to die as it said it can take 12 to 48 hours to die.

Yeah...would be horrendous nightmare to wake up from this level of ingestion...the idea is to be put out to sleep while the cardiac arrest takes place.

 

[easypeasy]

I am considering switching from an SN protocol to Amitriptyline. Will you kindly comment on the protocol below? I have modified it from my previous post. And will this work as a reliable alternative compared to DDAMPH? I can't source the morphine & phenobarbital.

Fast 8 hours

1. Meto 3x10 mg on empty stomach

2. Wait 40 min

3. Tagamet-400mg.(?) Wait 30 min.

4. Drink crushed up Ami 9g in water
(using oral topical anesthesic in mouth, tongue
and drink with straw to help with bitter taste)

Wait 20 minutes? Too long?

5. Take 450 mg Diazapam, 15 mg Lorazepam (crushed in little water)

6. 3x20 mg Propranolol (slightly ease anxiety)

7. 4 shots of vodka

8. Lay back on right side

What do I do if I vomit? Minimum Ami needed in body to likely cause the cardiac arrest? And should I take some of the diazapam before the AMI to relax me?

Peaceful, fast and reliable?

@007Bob

@Goku Black

I have a few points to show you because I am researching the same method and have for some time, now.
1. I think Tagamet 2 grams may be enough, as per the article I am using in considering the same option. (Refer to the table in the image I attached)
2. I would love to help you first try and find a way not to do this but I don't know your situation so I'll just show you what I found and you can chat to me however you'd like, or not at all xx
3. Propranolol is a Beta Blocker that lowers BPand slows heart rate. When BP is lowered, blood and oxygen increase to the heart. I am unsure if this could be why some protocols don't use it, or if it's irrelevant given the cocktail involved.
4. I am very grateful for any input you have for me, too.
Xo

 

[YosemiteGrrl]

I have a few points to show you because I am researching the same method and have for some time, now.
1. I think Tagamet 2 grams may be enough, as per the article I am using in considering the same option. (Refer to the table in the image I attached)
2. I would love to help you first try and find a way not to do this but I don't know your situation so I'll just show you what I found and you can chat to me however you'd like, or not at all xx
3. Propranolol is a Beta Blocker that lowers BPand slowsa heart rate. When BP is lowered, blood and oxygen increase to the heart. I am unsure if this could be why some protocols don't use it, or if it's irrelevant given the cocktail involved.
4. I am very grateful for any input you have for me, too.
Xo

@easypeasy thank you for your comments.
Where did this chart come from?
Also it was edited by a mod this morning so not sure what else might have been included?
Feel free to send me a DM.

 

[DefinitelyReady]

Can I asked why you decided to switch? You can PM me if you'd rather say there.

I have a few points to show you because I am researching the same method and have for some time, now.
1. I think Tagamet 2 grams may be enough, as per the article I am using in considering the same option. (Refer to the table in the image I attached)
2. I would love to help you first try and find a way not to do this but I don't know your situation so I'll just show you what I found and you can chat to me however you'd like, or not at all xx
3. Propranolol is a Beta Blocker that lowers BPand slows heart rate. When BP is lowered, blood and oxygen increase to the heart. I am unsure if this could be why some protocols don't use it, or if it's irrelevant given the cocktail involved.
4. I am very grateful for any input you have for me, too.

I have a few points to show you because I am researching the same method and have for some time, now.
1. I think Tagamet 2 grams may be enough, as per the article I am using in considering the same option. (Refer to the table in the image I attached)
2. I would love to help you first try and find a way not to do this but I don't know your situation so I'll just show you what I found and you can chat to me however you'd like, or not at all xx
3. Propranolol is a Beta Blocker that lowers BPand slows heart rate. When BP is lowered, blood and oxygen increase to the heart. I am unsure if this could be why some protocols don't use it, or if it's irrelevant given the cocktail involved.
4. I am very grateful for any input you have for me, too.
Xo

Can I ask what you mean by #2? My PMs are open if that'd be better

 

[easypeasy]

@easypeasy thank you for your comments.
Where did this chart come from?
Also it was edited by a mod this morning so not sure what else might have been included?
Feel free to send me a DM.

Hi Love, that was my bad. I can understand why we can't just upload parts of documents without any source or context. That's dangerous. I'm still new and in a lot of physical pain so I wasn't thinking the best. I can send you the direct link of the report from the New Jersey Medical Journal - it's available on Google.