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Apparently Amitriptilyne is very toxic in large quantities and it's part of the DDMA cocktail. I have like 8 boxes and could get Diazepam a bottle. Will this suffice combined with alcohol?? I'm 48kg slender female. A quick google search shows results of deaths and high cardio toxic effects of this drug. Any advice would be very welcome. I think it's mentioned in the Pph book?
 
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We don't have lots of cases on SaSu but apparently it's pretty effective and the PPH is rather exhaustive with regard to the AM method.
 
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We don't have lots of cases on SaSu but apparently it's pretty effective and the PPH is rather exhaustive with regard to the AM method
Perhaps it's worth to download the book and check it out ?
 
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My father got them from his neuro, they were not controlled ball then a few years ago. I highly suspect he took an overdose too and died since there were like 5 empty blisters in the trash and he already had heart issues.
 
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any overdose is a toss up. but it sounds promising
 
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Apparently Amitriptilyne is very toxic in large quantities and it's part of the DDMA cocktail. I have like 8 boxes and could get Diazepam a bottle. Will this suffice combined with alcohol?? I'm 48kg slender female. A quick google search shows results of deaths and high cardio toxic effects of this drug. Any advice would be very welcome. I think it's mentioned in the Pph book?
I had also considered this method. I have about four boxes. I get a box every month for Fibromyalgia - my doctor misdiagnosed me and I never bothered to tell him about this. I also have Diazepam and Zopiclone and some other meds. I never fully engaged in mechanics behind this Ami method as I became invested in SN. But all I keep reading (not sure what to believe now) is that SN is not as peaceful as people believe it to be. Not sure what to think. It's confusing. A few days ago I was like who cares - bring on the pain.. but I keep oscillating. I also considered Pheno, until I read that it can take up to three days to go - three days??? I thought that Amitriptyline was easy to get until I read the threads on this site. Seems not to be.
 
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I had also considered this method. I have about four boxes. I get a box every month for Fibromyalgia - my doctor misdiagnosed me and I never bothered to tell him about this. I also have Diazepam and Zopiclone and some other meds. I never fully engaged in mechanics behind this Ami method as I became invested in SN. But all I keep reading (not sure what to believe now) is that SN is not as peaceful as people believe it to be. Not sure what to think. It's confusing. A few days ago I was like who cares - bring on the pain.. but I keep oscillating. I also considered Pheno, until I read that it can take up to three days to go - three days??? I thought that Amitriptyline was easy to get until I read the threads on this site. Seems not to be.
Sn is definitely not peaceful for some. Apparently there's more info in the PPh book. It is part of the euthanasia cocktail currently used in the US, that one also includes morphine and digoxin. I'm just wondering about an antiemetic that doesn't cause akatitisia or other mérito effects of someone knows? Sn is impossible to get in my country and it takes so much effort to test it and all.
Sn is definitely not peaceful for some. Apparently there's more info in the PPh book. It is part of the euthanasia cocktail currently used in the US, that one also includes morphine and digoxin. I'm just wondering about an antiemetic that doesn't cause akatitisia or other mérito effects of someone knows? Sn is impossible to get in my country and it takes so much effort to test it and all.
Neuro side effects*
I had also considered this method. I have about four boxes. I get a box every month for Fibromyalgia - my doctor misdiagnosed me and I never bothered to tell him about this. I also have Diazepam and Zopiclone and some other meds. I never fully engaged in mechanics behind this Ami method as I became invested in SN. But all I keep reading (not sure what to believe now) is that SN is not as peaceful as people believe it to be. Not sure what to think. It's confusing. A few days ago I was like who cares - bring on the pain.. but I keep oscillating. I also considered Pheno, until I read that it can take up to three days to go - three days??? I thought that Amitriptyline was easy to get until I read the threads on this site. Seems not to be.
Maybe since it's so hard to get that's why many people don't consider this method? It's also a very old antidepressant and unsafe precisely because of its toxicity so they use newer antidepressants now.
any overdose is a toss up. but it sounds promising
Yes apparently this one is cardiotoxic, fucks up the sodium channels.
 
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Sn is definitely not peaceful for some. Apparently there's more info in the PPh book. It is part of the euthanasia cocktail currently used in the US, that one also includes morphine and digoxin. I'm just wondering about an antiemetic that doesn't cause akathisia or other mérito effects of someone knows? Sn is impossible to get in my country and it takes so much effort to test it and all.

Neuro side effects*

Maybe since it's so hard to get that's why many people don't consider this method? It's also a very old antidepressant and unsafe precisely because of its toxicity so they use newer antidepressants now.

Yes apparently this one is cardiotoxic, fucks up the sodium channels.
I have recently ordered Meto and Propranolol - waiting with bated breath for their delivery. I also have morphine and oxycodone alongside Valium, Zopiclone and Ami - but one of the former meds ( I cannot recall which one unless I dig it out), is slow or medium release rather than fast release, which I understand is not that effective.
From what I understood Meto was the go to antiemetic drug, but even if it does cause akathisia wouldn't this be counteracted by taking a beta blocker or sedative? I have no idea. I am not a doctor... unfortunately.
The moment they "misdiagnosed" me with Fibromyalgia, they gave me Amitriptyline pills as if they were going out of fashion. I was quite offended when they first prescribed them to me and wondered why they were prescribing me a tricyclic antidepressant, until I realised they were also used for neuropathic pain.
Sn is impossible to get in my country and it takes so much effort to test it and all.
It was difficult to get in my country as well - I can tell you it took some searching and when I found someone, I could not believe he shipped to my country. Then I feared it would be intercepted. It arrived in under 10 days.
 
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I have N but pills are more easy to take for me. I am used to. It is like the Russian roulette. You try and see what happen.
Sorry I do not have the answer you are searching. But can relate to your pain.... Hug!
by the way, how do you do to weight only 48? need advice...
 
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I have recently ordered Meto and Propranolol - waiting with bated breath their delivery. I also have morphine and oxycodone alongside Valium, Zopiclone and Ami - but one of the former meds ( I cannot recall which one unless I dig it out), is slow or medium release rather than fast release, which I understand is not that effective.
From what I understood Meto was the go to antiemetic drug, but even if it does cause akathisia wouldn't this be counteracted by taking a beta blocker or sedative? I have no idea. I am not a doctor... unfortunately.
The moment they "misdiagnosed" me with Fibromyalgia, they gave me Amitriptyline pills as if they were going out of fashion. I was quite offended when they first prescribed them to me and wondered why they were prescribing me a tricyclic antidepressant, until I realised they were also used for neuropathic pain.

It was difficult to get in my country as well - I can tell you it took some searching and when I found someone, I could not believe he shipped to my country. Then I feared it would be intercepted. It arrived in
I've heard of propanolol overdoses but you need like 10 boxes too, I though of that method but as with all overdose methods there are risks. How do you know If you can trust the brand of SN.
I have N but pills are more easy to take for me. I am used to. It is like the Russian roulette. You try and see what happen.
Sorry I do not have the answer you are searching. But can relate to your pain.... Hug!
by the way, how do you do to weight only 48? need advice...
Thanks! Got severely poisoned with home brewed probiotics and ended up in the hospital and also genetics, my max weight was 52. Skinny genes. But N you just have to drink it, wish I had N. How did u get it.
 
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I've heard of propanolol overdoses but you need like 10 boxes too, I though of that method but as with all overdose methods there are risks. How do you know If you can trust the brand of SN.

Thanks! Got severely poisoned with home brewed probiotics and ended up in the hospital and also genetics, my max weight was 52. Skinny genes. But N you just have to drink it, wish I had N. How did u get it.
Hi - the propranolol is not for me to overdose with. It's a beta blocker to slow the heart rate down when using SN. Well it might be used to OD but this is not what I am using it for.
I've heard of propanolol overdoses but you need like 10 boxes too, I though of that method but as with all overdose methods there are risks. How do you know If you can trust the brand of SN.

Thanks! Got severely poisoned with home brewed probiotics and ended up in the hospital and also genetics, my max weight was 52. Skinny genes. But N you just have to drink it, wish I had N. How did u get it.
Also I trust the brand/company as it has good reviews and ships over 100 tubs a week. I will be testing it before use anyway. The same problem emerges with N where people (I believe I may have read it on this site ) have been sent rat poison and effectively been scammed. I'd rather be scammed out of a few dollars, euros or pounds than over $1000. That would really upset me.
 
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I've heard of propanolol overdoses but you need like 10 boxes too, I though of that method but as with all overdose methods there are risks. How do you know If you can trust the brand of SN.

Thanks! Got severely poisoned with home brewed probiotics and ended up in the hospital and also genetics, my max weight was 52. Skinny genes. But N you just have to drink it, wish I had N. How did u get it.
Just folowed PPH protocol
 
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A single Benzo is not sufficient for this method to be peaceful. You must cover both a short and long acting benzo in large quantities. Diazepam/Valium covers the mid to long-life one but you need a fast acting one on top. In this regard, Midazolam is the best (used in anesthesia as a first choice before Diazepam).

If the right combination of benzos is disregarded, you will not slide to unconsciousness on time before it gets nasty and you also risk to wake up a few hours later agitated in pain, in the middle of the process. This method has a lot of potential regarding reliability and peacefulness, only if a complete protocol (with all ingredients) is followed where details count.

By the way, Midazolam is rare. It can be tricky to get. It took me some time to find it. However, it's a useful compound to insert into other methods like SN as well, in order to enter into action before the bad side effects kick in.
 
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I never fully engaged in mechanics behind this Ami method as I became invested in SN. But all I keep reading (not sure what to believe now) is that SN is not as peaceful as people believe it to be. Not sure what to think. It's confusing.

Congratulations to people who fear monger, you can see the result of your job here.

And given it's the most documented method on SaSu, I can't imagine the result of fear mongering for other methods like ami.
 
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To push anyone towards SN is not very friendly advice imho if it can be avoided. Various reports indicate it's a gamble in terms of sensations
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-dear-lion84.34672/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/first-ever-sn-documentation.29734
 
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To push anyone towards SN is not very friendly advice imho if it can be avoided. Various reports indicate it's a gamble in terms of sensations
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/goodbye-dear-lion84.34672/
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/first-ever-sn-documentation.29734

What are you trying to do with your posts? And who is pushing anyone towards SN?

Last but not least, both of your threads indicate SN is rather a peaceful method if you've already experienced a flu, so wtf?

Stop fear mongering. If you think this method isn't peaceful enough for you it's your choice, but don't fear monger.
 
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Not fear mongering but also not blocking information with nuances. Rather peaceful is up to interpretation when you compare the info available. If you're genuine, compile & present the worst threads and let people decide. Don't be the arbitrator. But wait, member LivingSucks has done this extended work before you where she regrouped every SN accounts. Then, member GoodPersonEffed has put up stats of symptoms with more than one atipycal showing up that turned her away from the method. It's not all glory. For instance, is gasping for breath typical of flu? then yours must be pretty tropical.

I may ask you why are you accepting a conventional ambient norm when SN is a less enchanted way than other methods which can be acquired after 1 week to 1 month of work or savings while on disability ?!
If you don't like my point that Amitriptyline can be more peaceful than SN, to me you are misinformed until you prove me wrong with detailed arguments. Your claims have been short without explanation, i.e. pure affirmations. If you're offended by my opinion, debate it or move on but don't track me down with authority please. After all, it's a forum where to share viewpoints, or is it a board of police ?

For your information, for when you'll decide to read the forums meticulously

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nd-experiences-information-google-docs.29900/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ation-and-practice-journal.31458/#post-578783
(there are other testimonials since then and not all point towards it's as benign as a rollercoaster trip at a theme park, not excatly)
 
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Congratulations to people who fear monger, you can see the result of your job here.

And given it's the most documented method on SaSu, I can't imagine the result of fear mongering for other methods like ami.
Yes I had been left somewhat concerned by this method but decided to go ahead with it anyway. I cannot get hold of N. I will not risk getting Fentanyl. I am not into hanging myself. I have few other options and it seems there are downsides to almost all methods.

At the end of the day I never chose SN for any other reason than the almost guaranteed certainty of being gone from this forsaken world. Pain was a secondary consideration at the time of choosing and only became something to worry about when I saw a few threads about this, that and the other. I may change my mind if I find something more "peaceful" on the DN, but to be honest I'm trying to mitigate this possibility with the use of other meds with the SN protocol.
 
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A single Benzo is not sufficient for this method to be peaceful. You must cover both a short and long acting benzo in large quantities. Diazepam/Valium covers the mid to long-life one but you need a fast acting one on top. In this regard, Midazolam is the best (used in anesthesia as a first choice before Diazepam).

If the right combination of benzos is disregarded, you will not slide to unconsciousness on time before it gets nasty and you also risk to wake up a few hours later agitated in pain, in the middle of the process. This method has a lot of potential regarding reliability and peacefulness, only if a complete protocol (with all ingredients) is followed where details count.

By the way, Midazolam is rare. It can be tricky to get. It took me some time to find it. However, it's a useful compound to insert into other methods like SN as well, in order to enter into action before the bad side effects kick in.
Thanks so much I really appreciate this info, the more precise the better since that helps avoiding failed attempts. I have alprazolam for the short action part, would it work? And I can get Diazepam,
I just have to work out the anti emetic part since I had neurological issues with prokinetics before. I know morphine would be best but it's impossible to get.
A single Benzo is not sufficient for this method to be peaceful. You must cover both a short and long acting benzo in large quantities. Diazepam/Valium covers the mid to long-life one but you need a fast acting one on top. In this regard, Midazolam is the best (used in anesthesia as a first choice before Diazepam).

If the right combination of benzos is disregarded, you will not slide to unconsciousness on time before it gets nasty and you also risk to wake up a few hours later agitated in pain, in the middle of the process. This method has a lot of potential regarding reliability and peacefulness, only if a complete protocol (with all ingredients) is followed where details count.

By the way, Midazolam is rare. It can be tricky to get. It took me some time to find it. However, it's a useful compound to insert into other methods like SN as well, in order to enter into action before the bad side effects kick in.
So the DDMA cocktail guidelines say crush everything and dissolve with vodka or similar alcohol, I'm skipping the digoxin and the morphine but Ami in itself seems to be toxic enough. What do you think?
 
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The newest edition from the exit intl website ?
I don't find the version I used anymore. maybe others know which one is correct. You have some thread about that on the platform. Sorry
 
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Not fear mongering but also not blocking information with nuances. Rather peaceful is up to interpretation when you compare the info available. If you're genuine, compile & present the worst threads and let people decide. Don't be the arbitrator. But wait, member LivingSucks has done this extended work before you where she regrouped every SN accounts. Then, member GoodPersonEffed has put up stats of symptoms with more than one atipycal showing up that turned her away from the method. It's not all glory. For instance, is gasping for breath typical of flu? then yours must be pretty tropical.

I may ask you why are you accepting a conventional ambient norm when SN is a less enchanted way than other methods which can be acquired after 1 week to 1 month of work or savings while on disability ?!
If you don't like my point that Amitriptyline can be more peaceful than SN, to me you are misinformed until you prove me wrong with detailed arguments. Your claims have been short without explanation, i.e. pure affirmations. If you're offended by my opinion, debate it or move on but don't track me down with authority please. After all, it's a forum where to share viewpoints, or is it a board of police ?

For your information, for when you'll decide to read the forums meticulously

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...nd-experiences-information-google-docs.29900/

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...ation-and-practice-journal.31458/#post-578783
(there are other testimonials since then and not all point towards it's as benign as a rollercoaster trip at a theme park, not excatly)
I definitely think death by SN involves suffocation. Many ppl seem to desperately grasp for air although the fortunate ones seem to just black out. Also a gamble.
 
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I definitely think death by SN involves suffocation. Many ppl seem to desperately grasp for air although the fortunate ones seem to just black out. Also a gamble.
There are testimonials of difficulty breathing from just an underdose of SN and it makes sense considering the mechanism that the eventuality cannot be overriden.

As for benzos with Amitriptyline

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To "respect to the letter". Especially not underdo with inappropriate alternatives, otherwise there could be suffering
 
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There are testimonials of difficulty breathing from just an underdose of SN and it makes sense considering the mechanism that the eventuality cannot be overriden.

As for benzos with Amitriptyline

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To "respect to the letter". Especially not underdo with inappropriate alternatives, otherwise there could be suffering
Unfortunately those ingredients seem unfathomably difficult, if not impossible to acquire from any online pharmacy. :mmm:
Would they even sell them on the Dark Net?
 
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I've bought anything from Wickr vendors since 1 to 2 years. I've inquired before, they will carry all of that, except Flurazepam which is outdated
 
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I've bought anything from Wickr vendors since 1 to 2 years. I've inquired before, they will carry all of that, except Flurazepam which is outdated
I'd never heard of that until now.

"Wickr provides end-to-end encrypted messaging, audio calling, video conferencing, file and location sharing, and more."

As for me personally, I wouldn't know where on earth to look in order to get the contacts for such vendors on there, let alone how to go about doing so. How would I even be able to ascertain if the source I had was legit, as It would depend on where I had obtained it from?
 
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Frankly because I ordered many times before for my personal consumption and always was delivered, so I can't be re assre than I am due to concrete practical verified experience
 
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Does anyone have any experience with the aftereffects of an unsuccessful Amitriptyline overdose? I know it takes a while and I can't seem to find information about what happens if you're found a few hours in. I know you can be saved, but are there likely to be any longterm affects?
 
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Does anyone have any experience with the aftereffects of an unsuccessful Amitriptyline overdose? I know it takes a while and I can't seem to find information about what happens if you're found a few hours in. I know you can be saved, but are there likely to be any longterm affects?
I think any overdose can cause liver damage, plus being neuroleptic drugs probably neurological damage and probably brain damage.
Unfortunately those ingredients seem unfathomably difficult, if not impossible to acquire from any online pharmacy. :mmm:
Would they even sell them on the Dark Net?
There are testimonials of difficulty breathing from just an underdose of SN and it makes sense considering the mechanism that the eventuality cannot be overriden.

As for benzos with Amitriptyline

View attachment 73313

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To "respect to the letter". Especially not underdo with inappropriate alternatives, otherwise there could be suffering
Won't just the Ami+ lorazepam+diazepam +alprazolam do? The recipe says dissolve everything in vodka or some other strong liqueur.
 
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