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I made the assumption that being a ghost means being present basically as an invisible human who isn't able to interact with living people directly, thus it's living but with further inconveniences, and there's no definite end [assuming a ghost can't die]. I would be delirious
its true that it really sucks, but in an infinite loop I at least won't be aware of the agony of living again and again
you'd still be dying over and over again
being a ghost has 0 inconveniences honestly. you just do nothing all day. it's definitely better than hell or reincarnation because it's still a reality you know
most people can't really visualize heaven, myself included. nothingness sounds more peaceful and tangible because you get that every time you sleep and under anesthesia. people that were in comas or had near death experiences and revived also talked about how it was consciousness and nothingness. reincarnation can also be considered worse than hell because you can't control the being you're born into, like how @aufrechtm7 said. i think that abrahamic religions' depictions of heaven and hell narrow down the options too much.
Our intuitions fail us when it comes to things beyond the human experience.
I agree with the first part of your reply but I'd like to add that at least within the confines of Christianity and Islam, I wouldn't describe hell as strictly being "ceaseless" suffering as there are different supported interpretations of it.
I understand the context you're discussing it in, I just wanted to add that there are different well supported interpretations regarding it as just temporary sufferingāpurgatory would be conceptually different. For example, in Islam the idea that hell (or Jahannam to be precise) is temporary only for Muslims can be substantiated. Or in Christianity, it's still a place of suffering before your soul is ultimately destroyed or saved at some point through God's infinite love.
Yes there is a slim minority of Christians and Muslims that hold to some version of universalism (hell as purgatory) or annihilationism (hell before nothingness, which is still a terrible fate btw) but that is not really what most people - not just most believers - think of when they hear the word "hell". Words can mean different things but it is fair to assume that when talking to a stranger they are using the word as commonly understood.
I'm confused. How do you have an an nde if it's nothingness? I've heard of the void but that's not nothing.
In Islam Hell is depicted as a place of temporary punishment for the believer, this way their sins get expiated through their suffering so that they then can enter heaven.
I disagree with the idea that because something is popular makes it the only interpretation worth using since that's just an appeal to popularity. If someone doesn't know what to think about hell due to a lack of knowledge for example, it could make or break how they actually see it.
It'd be more correct to say nothingness is like how we were before we were conceived or born as opposed to just being asleep, as we're still technically conscious during sleep.
you worded it better than me. the video i saw of a guy talking about his near death experience where he was revived said it was like being conscious before his accident and then waking up in the ambulance car. it's the absence of thought and consciousness. it's a much less frightening afterlife because you don't have to be conscious ever again.
