Afterlife Theories NDE

[Disintegration]

More recently came across some suicide NDEs that claim they would have had to remain in a limbo of sorts until their intended time for death. They would have to experience everyone else's pain from their act and experience how their absence would effect the rest of society until they were supposed to die.

Another popular theory is this thought that you wanted to be here in order to learn how to love and forgive unconditionally and setup difficult life circumstances to challenge yourself. You'll regret the decision to suicide because you'll have to start all over again with similar or more difficult circumstances.

I don't necessarily buy into any of these ideas, but I do find the unknown interesting. Anyone else know of any NDE's relating to suicide that they could share?

 

[Kumachan]

first one doesnt sound plausable, so theres intended time for my death. That means my fate is known and i dont have free will. But if i kill myself isnt that also a part of my fate? Or have I changed my fate?

Our psychological make up, surroundings, circumstances, every day situations, moment by moment, have lead us to where we are now - suicide forum. I dont see how a "person" can be separated from his/her life situation in order to be a free agent.

If I kill myself it will surely have some effect on some ppl. But compared to what? Me not killing myself? Its not like there was a clear moment of making that "free will" choice! Even me contemplating CTB is already affecting some people however tiny this effect may be... So we have to compare two lifelines - in one lifeline I dont Ctb - to measure this effect. And these two lives would have to be very different!

Maybe Im not very spiritually evolved but the idea of loving unconditionally sounds bad to me... Like loving chocolate icecream when actually i love vanilla. We didnt choose to love what we love. Maybe it can happen at some point but not through my volition.

 

[Borabora]

I'm anxious about "how will I know that I have died?" How do I know my soul has came out of my body? I want to ctb successfully; not be a ghost.

 

[Skyview]

I'm anxious about "how will I know that I have died?" How do I know my soul has came out of my body? I want to ctb successfully; not be a ghost.

There has been documented cases where people have died on the operating table and resuscitation was performed successfully, each stated they viewed themselves from above , watching the surgeons work on their body .

 

[Borabora]

There has been documented cases where people have died on the operating table and resuscitation was performed successfully, each stated they viewed themselves from above , watching the surgeons work on their body .

Thank you Skyview, yes, I have read of those reports. I have also heard from op-posers of that view, say, "but that is only near death, not death itself. They have not truly died and crossed over. They have only reached the doorway of death and so have come back. If they truly died, they could not have returned to life.

 

[Skyview]

Thank you Skyview, yes, I have read of those reports. I have also heard from op-posers of that view, say, "but that is only near death, not death itself. They have not truly died and crossed over. They have only reached the doorway of death and so have come back. If they truly died, they could not have returned to life.

May I PM you ?
What I have to say is not for general consumption within the forum .

 

[lonelygirl66]

Really once you die that's it game over. Natural or suicide there won't be any memory of it as your dead. We may however be reborn instantly as we die all new and ready to begin anew. If it's like that I truly hope our brains have been wiped clean and rebooted.

 

[KiraLittleOwl]

I don't know what to think of these NDEs honestly... but I don't believe it's related to afterlife, it has to be related to the process of dying.

 

[Disintegration]

I don't know what to think of these NDEs honestly... but I don't believe it's related to afterlife, it has to be related to the process of dying.

I agree... I think people see what they want to see.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Mine is either existentialism that we just seize to exist and death will "feel" like before you were born the closest to immitating this state is if you ever have been under anesthesia in that state you don´t dream, have no perception of time and don´t even subconciously feel you are moving you just go to sleep and suddenly wake up.

The other is the simulation hypothesis but what I hope is when I kill myself I wake up in the paradise that was my childhood so it would work in a similar way as in this scene from Inception, the only way to end this nightmare and wake up in the amazing world of my childhood is to kill myself. This however is very unlikely it´s just a desperate hope because I miss my childhood so much and it´s not fair my happiness ended that early (when I hit puberty) so I deserve to live in that paradise once again.

There has been documented cases where people have died on the operating table and resuscitation was performed successfully, each stated they viewed themselves from above , watching the surgeons work on their body .

It happens because the brain releases DMT when you are about to die which is a hallucinogen it is also the active drug in ayahuasca it´s like the people who claim that they saw "god" or the gates to heaven is just their own projection caused by the DMT release.

 

[lostangel]

1. Maybe we wake up to a bunch of green creatures asking us ''how was your trip''. (simulation)
2. The ''egg'' theory might be true and we might have to live every single human life on earth.
3. We might experience nothing. Like when were asleep.
4. We might go to hell or heaven. Regardless if you're religious.
5. We might be multi-dimensional being and that if we haven't fulfilled our purpose than we have to be reborn.

But my thoughts are I don't know. Nobody does. Were all just guessing and some of us are projecting what we want to happen. I guess we will know when we cease to exist. The possibilities are endless. We will have to wait and see as I don't think we will ever know the truth until we're right in front of it.


But I think what @TheGoodGuy said is very interesting about the release of DMT.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

1. Maybe we wake up to a bunch of green creatures asking us ''how was your trip''. (simulation)

It blew my mind when I first saw it, but there are so many simulation theories that could be true maybe our lives are just a video game like in the game Roy in Rick and Morty