Soulless_Angel

Soulless_Angel

existence is futile
Jul 10, 2019
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I just saw this sentence with no further info on a social media site.
It got me thinking, if people are so quick to take a life before it's even born with no thought to how it's future may turn out, what is wrong with that life taking their own when they are older, with their own mindset and choices and not coping?
I know there are many on here who are anti parents, who also believe children shouldn't be created, but please this thread isn't for That.
It's more the sentence
Abortion yes, suicide No

that got me thinking.
 
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BlueWidow

BlueWidow

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Oct 6, 2019
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To my mind it's hypocritical. Either you are pro-choice or anti-choice. You shouldn't be able to pick and choose which things you're pro choice on and which things your anti-choice on. Either you believe a person has a right to a choice or else you don't. Period. Anything else makes you a hypocrite.
 
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Aleandra Felix

Aleandra Felix

Give me peace or give me death
Jan 2, 2020
39
It's really difficult to take your own life. There are many things involved. Also, if you're thinking about suicide, it means you're in terrible pain and suffering. The best thing is never to be born. Abortion is a favor to those fetuses. I wholeheartedly wish I was aborted. My mom had a miscarriage before I was born. Unfortunately, I had to be the one coming to this hellhole called Earth.
 
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Empty Smile

Empty Smile

The final Bell has rung. Goodbye to all.
Jul 13, 2018
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"Let's ban all guns because they kill our children, but make late term abortion legal."

I like the government's plan....
 
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BlueWidow

BlueWidow

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Oct 6, 2019
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It's really difficult to take your own life. There are many things involved. Also, if you're thinking about suicide, it means you're in terrible pain and suffering. The best thing is never to be born. Abortion is a favor to those fetuses. I wholeheartedly wish I was aborted. My mom had a miscarriage before I was born. Unfortunately, I had to be the one coming to this hellhole called Earth.
I feel for you. I was born before abortion was legal and my mother was very religious so she never would've aborted me anyway. I was born very prematurely and very sick. I spent the first couple of months of my life in an incubator and the doctors assured my family that I was 100% going to die. They advised them all to go home and forget about me. However, my mother and one of my sisters refused to let me die and they stayed next to me the entire time I was in the hospital. I'm sure my mother, being religious, probably prayed for my life to be saved. The entire time, she had cancer and was dying from it. She would later choose not to get treatment for her cancer, but instead to allow herself to die. I've been angry at her ever since she did that. Why the hell did she force me to live, only to choose to let herself die! That is so messed up!
 
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TAW122

TAW122

Emissary of the right to die.
Aug 30, 2018
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I agree with @BlueWidow and yes, it is indeed hypocritical, especially when they allow one particular kind of choice (the choice to decide whether another being is conceived or not), but deny the other (the choice of an sentient individual to decide whether to continue living or die).
 
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Final Escape

I’ve been here too long
Jul 8, 2018
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It's really difficult to take your own life. There are many things involved. Also, if you're thinking about suicide, it means you're in terrible pain and suffering. The best thing is never to be born. Abortion is a favor to those fetuses. I wholeheartedly wish I was aborted. My mom had a miscarriage before I was born. Unfortunately, I had to be the one coming to this hellhole called Earth.
Lol! My mom aborted her first then it was me and I wish I was aborted too. My life has been a real shitshow. I would only want to have been born if we have no governments anywhere and everybody is free. Then maybe, but not under this socialist slavery system.
 
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Broken Chimera

Broken Chimera

The abyss also gazes into you
May 27, 2019
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I'm glad someone brought this up because it's been on my mind for a while. They (besides the fundamentalists) for the most part agree with abortion but completely against euthanasia. They remind me of some Christians, they cherry pick what they like and ignore the rest. In this case they see fetuses as non human but good for resources. Grown adults however can't be given the same type of service, because you can't get paid off of a corpse after organ harvesting and funeral/cremation services. So in my mind, society fights for society. That means that they need people to leech off of. Even if that person is brain dead, people need that person to use, either as a trophy or for medical bills.

Anti-suicide but pro-abortion people don't have a leg to stand on because they want 2 diametrically opposed things. You can't be pro-choice and pro-life, but most people want things both ways. I would love to see someone try to defend that position because it makes no sense to me.
 
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Maravillosa

Maravillosa

Господи помилуй — мир в Україні!
Sep 7, 2018
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Well... I oppose the right to have an abortion but am in favor of the right to suicide. My opposition to abortion is rooted in my Catholic faith: the unborn are incapable of choosing to die. Even those conceived in rape deserve a chance to live. However, once one has tried to live in this world and found it wanting, then I hope God would be merciful if one decided to end one's life on one's own terms. I could go on and on, but I hope that is sufficient :happy:
 
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xXSarac3nSlay3rXx

xXSarac3nSlay3rXx

“Leaving this world is not as scary as it sounds.”
Mar 3, 2019
248
"Let's ban all guns because they kill our children, but make late term abortion legal."

I like the government's plan....
Yeah, my state's legislature is looking to crack down on guns really hard. Inert gas is my method of choice, but still, it really sucks.
 
Thereisnothing

Thereisnothing

Enlightened
Jan 4, 2020
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Well... I oppose the right to have an abortion but am in favor of the right to suicide. My opposition to abortion is rooted in my Catholic faith: the unborn are incapable of choosing to die. Even those conceived in rape deserve a chance to live. However, once one has tried to live in this world and found it wanting, then I hope God would be merciful if one decided to end one's life on one's own terms. I could go on and on, but I hope that is sufficient :happy:
Personally I have same views as you do, I dont agree with abortion as its noones fault they are conceived, yet if someone wishes to take their own life for whatever reason if things get so bad, then I feel we should have the right. So I think you can be pro and anti choice, as with most things in life nothing is black and white.
 
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Brick In The Wall

Brick In The Wall

2M Or Not 2B.
Oct 30, 2019
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No offense, but this generation considers condom and plan b abortion. Yet they want to fuck like we used to. We live in a different age that's not the 70s, even if I'm an 80s baby.

You'll be saying the same thing one day. Any abortion hurts you eventually.
 
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Heart of Ice

Chillin'
Sep 26, 2019
362
Abortion = technically killing someone else = good,

Suicide = killing myself and no one else is harmed = bad?

If it were the other way around, it would make a bit more sense. I'm not one of those people that think 80 % of people are stupid and irrational but I'm somehow not, but people sure can be weird sometimes.
 
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benjamind2020

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Sep 18, 2020
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Another interesting spanner to throw into the works is infant circumcision - which should actually be referred to as infant genital mutilation because that is precisely what it is.

If you're pro-choice but defend infant genital mutilation then you are NOT pro-choice!!!
 
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woxihuanni

woxihuanni

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Aug 19, 2019
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Another interesting spanner to throw into the works is infant circumcision - which should actually be referred to as infant genital mutilation because that is precisely what it is.

If you're pro-choice but defend infant genital mutilation then you are NOT pro-choice!!!

I always chuckle to think what my sjw sister-in-law will do when she breeds and her husband mutilates their offspring. Gotta respect his wishes, riiite?
 
Lupgevif

Lupgevif

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Jul 23, 2020
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Abortion yes, suicide yes.
 
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Sprite_Geist

Sprite_Geist

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May 27, 2020
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The pro-choice movement on abortion: "My body my choice."

The majority of groups (including pro-choice) that are against suicide: "Someone elses body - not their choice."


Edit: The term "pro-choice" that is used in this post refers to the group related to abortion - not pro-choice suicide communities, so it is not criticizing SS.
 
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benjamind2020

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Sep 18, 2020
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Suicide isn't about someone elses body LOL
Abortion might be if you believe the fetus is a separate entity.
 
illbeinthegarage

illbeinthegarage

funs fun but who needs it
Jun 14, 2020
316
i think about this a lot. that if people are pro choice when it comes to abortion, why cant they be pro choice when it comes to someones misery and want to die. i get its a little different as theyre now actually alive but man living hurts