lemmeeleev

lemmeeleev

Still here
Nov 29, 2018
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Pretty sad when people seem to be more understanding and more okay with someone taking away another's right to live than giving someone the right to die. So they'd rather have someone die who wanted to live than someone who didn't? Wheres the logic in that?
 
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Worsethangarbage

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Nov 13, 2018
138
There is no logic in our society. It's build on subjective views and fallacies.
 
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21Neberg

21Neberg

Enlightened
Dec 17, 2018
1,624
I agree, the whole 'life is a gift' idea is really fucking annoying.
 
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nztphill

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Nov 12, 2018
98
This world is just a sadistic game who have opposite rules that doesn't really care what you want...they just control us...its magnetic field to opposite direction around body that change your consciousness at every second...this life is a simulation...i say that because i have been displaced this body in to opposite side and now its goes back to balance and i see this world from inside with very powerful feelings cant control them...now goes back to minimum where's they are in balance...the price what i paid to seeing that is enormously pain off my spine spinning back that's insane ...and everything is planned every moment in life...the same rules works for entire universe...its like a game inside computer...feelings working around
 
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nztphill

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Nov 12, 2018
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Misanthrope

Misanthrope

Mage
Oct 23, 2018
557
There is no logic in our society. It's build on subjective views and fallacies.

What irks me really is how little there is in the way of study of rational suicide. In most psychology textbooks it gets a cursory mention, but that is about it, or none at all in some. It is fascinating to me that psychiatry, meant to be the forefront of understanding on the issue does not even bother to meaningfully pursue this. Instead too busy voting disorders into existence and never defining 'non disordered'. That is poor science. It also means having a rational discussion about it in legislative places is harder, because you don't have the data to pull on to underline your point. So it just winds up becoming knee jerk reactionary and emotive.
 
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Mecha Man

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
230
While I completely empathize and have complained about this subject endlessly, I do have to say in response to Misanthrope's post that I have long felt that there really is something wrong with me. I have actual mental disorders. Although it would be awfully nice if in the eyes of society suicidal people could at least sometimes be viewed as "people with different opinions" rather than just "sick people who need help." But since when has society been a place that respects people's different opinions.
 
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nztphill

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Nov 12, 2018
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Thank you, NtzPhil, for the illustration, I must admit I was slightly perplexed by your text but the photographs make it delightfully clear
the most important part is first step...after you start to realize more and more...because your fragment part of the show...what's you are playing right now...creates moments in the future.but you will be in another side,you will start to realize how back moments was part of spectacle.the most horrific is he catch you with the same thing that you do before
 
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Misanthrope

Misanthrope

Mage
Oct 23, 2018
557
While I completely empathize and have complained about this subject endlessly, I do have to say in response to Misanthrope's post that I have long felt that there really is something wrong with me. I have actual mental disorders. Although it would be awfully nice if in the eyes of society suicidal people could at least sometimes be viewed as "people with different opinions" rather than just "sick people who need help." But since when has society been a place that respects people's different opinions.

Hi there, I hope you have not misconstrued my post to mean I do not believe in mental illness. If that is how I came across I apologies. I was more referencing the creep of the DSM-5 to medicalise completely ordinary things into disorders to the point my guinea pigs need medicating... There is plenty of evidence that mental illness exists it is just the jury is out on conclusive answers.

Peace.
 
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HellinHeaven

HellinHeaven

seeking for salvation
Jan 12, 2019
63
I really finished with society, so I don't care anymore what other unknown people think of me. Everyone who stucks deep in society does this because of fear (of his individual freedom). We are the messengers of this freedom. That's the point that many people are afraid of us und ctb is such a big taboo.
 
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Lifeisatrap

Arcanist
Oct 5, 2018
408
I really do feel like an alien amongst my species. Seems like this world was designed for the sole purpose of pissing me off:/ Couldn't be more anxious to leave this place.
 
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Mecha Man

Experienced
Jul 16, 2018
230
Hi there, I hope you have not misconstrued my post to mean I do not believe in mental illness. If that is how I came across I apologies. I was more referencing the creep of the DSM-5 to medicalise completely ordinary things into disorders to the point my guinea pigs need medicating... There is plenty of evidence that mental illness exists it is just the jury is out on conclusive answers.

Peace.

Oh don't worry I didn't mean to imply that, I understood what you meant. I was just trying to say something like: Even if I have mental illnesses, I should still have autonomy over my body and my life. Just because I'm not entirely of sound mind all the time, there's no reason people should aggressively and relentlessly interfere with the business of me ending my life, especially since we're all gonna die anyway.

If I'm sick and I badly want to die, it's incredibly annoying how basically the whole world is going to do everything in it's power to stop me.

It's way beyond annoying; It's frustrating. It's infuriating. It's depressing. It just makes you feel so much more helpless and miserable.
 
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Thewhowithin69

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Dec 31, 2018
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What irks me really is how little there is in the way of study of rational suicide. In most psychology textbooks it gets a cursory mention, but that is about it, or none at all in some. It is fascinating to me that psychiatry, meant to be the forefront of understanding on the issue does not even bother to meaningfully pursue this. Instead too busy voting disorders into existence and never defining 'non disordered'. That is poor science. It also means having a rational discussion about it in legislative places is harder, because you don't have the data to pull on to underline your point. So it just winds up becoming knee jerk reactionary and emotive.
This.
 
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Thewhowithin69

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Dec 31, 2018
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Oh don't worry I didn't mean to imply that, I understood what you meant. I was just trying to say something like: Even if I have mental illnesses, I should still have autonomy over my body and my life. Just because I'm not entirely of sound mind all the time, there's no reason people should aggressively and relentlessly interfere with the business of me ending my life, especially since we're all gonna die anyway.

If I'm sick and I badly want to die, it's incredibly annoying how basically the whole world is going to do everything in it's power to stop me.

It's way beyond annoying; It's frustrating. It's infuriating. It's depressing. It just makes you feel so much more helpless and miserable.

I totally relate!! I just don't understand how having a mental diagnosis precludes me being able to have an opinion on my own suffering!! Like how arrogant can you be to think that simply because my brain doesn't work typically my cognition is dismissed as lower then? It breaks my heart that invalidating my experience is part of the protocol, oh she can't know what pain is and if she does she doesn't have the right to say stop, enough. Like strip me of whatever dignity I might have figured out how to scrape up without any help and then tell me good luck with that!
Fuck this steams me....
And I think it adds insult to injury that being prolife means you have to save a body at all costs and until your the one paying those costs you really shouldn't have any ability to decide for me. I don't believe in your morality that it's based on so obviously my stance may be different....but I'm just nobody. My opinion matters even less because what could I know as a mentally ill person?? That just seems really cruel. It feels like torture actually....
 
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Shewaitsforme

Arcanist
Sep 23, 2018
493
This world is just a sadistic game who have opposite rules that doesn't really care what you want...they just control us...its magnetic field to opposite direction around body that change your consciousness at every second...this life is a simulation...i say that because i have been displaced this body in to opposite side and now its goes back to balance and i see this world from inside with very powerful feelings cant control them...now goes back to minimum where's they are in balance...the price what i paid to seeing that is enormously pain off my spine spinning back that's insane ...and everything is planned every moment in life...the same rules works for entire universe...its like a game inside computer...feelings working around

Do you mean ypu spine is misaligned, not as is should me? My head sits alittle too far forward but i dont suffer any pain because of it thankfully. I remember seeing you post those pictures a while back but dont think we fully understood what you mean.
 
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nztphill

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Nov 12, 2018
98
Do you mean ypu spine is misaligned, not as is should me? My head sits alittle too far forward but i dont suffer any pain because of it thankfully. I remember seeing you post those pictures a while back but dont think we fully understood what you mean.
It took me more than 3 years to go up after my body drop in this position,at that moment i didn't know what's happening it took me more than 5 years to understand what's going on and another 5 years trying to find a way back
 
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JustAboutDone

Illuminated
Jan 1, 2019
3,532
It took me more than 3 years to go up after my body drop in this position,at that moment i didn't know what's happening it took me more than 5 years to understand what's going on and another 5 years trying to find a way back

I always enjoy reading your posts @nztphill because they really make one *think* and for someone like me whose brain has become somewhat addled that is such a valuable thing. Much appreciated x
 
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WhyWasIBorn

WhyWasIBorn

I didn't ask to be here... so why can't I leave?
Jan 18, 2019
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