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NormaJeane

NormaJeane

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Mar 24, 2021
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The method plastic bag and sleeping pills is no longer recommended because it is possible to tear away the plastic bag from the head when you are unconscious. The survival instinct takes over because of the carbon dioxide we exhale in the plastic bag - no matter how much we want to die. Several suicide attempts with plastic bag and overdose of sleeping pills have failed in this way - the method is risky and can easily fail if you do not fasten your hands behind your back.

But a convicted Chinese spy succeeded in committing suicide in his prison cell with a plastic bag he had found in a trash can in the prison day room. He was found dead in his cell with the plastic bag over his head and a shoelace around his neck. So it is possible to commit suicide with only a trash bag and a shoelace! Read about the case on AP News on the Internet.
 
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Chiisai

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Sep 1, 2021
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The method plastic bag and sleeping pills is no longer recommended because it is possible to tear away the plastic bag from the head when you are unconscious. The survival instinct takes over because of the carbon dioxide we exhale in the plastic bag - no matter how much we want to die. Several suicide attempts with plastic bag and overdose of sleeping pills have failed in this way - the method is risky and can easily fail if you do not fasten your hands behind your back.

But a convicted Chinese spy succeeded in committing suicide in his prison cell with only a plastic bag he had found in a trash can in the prison day room. He was found dead in his cell with the plastic bag over his head and a shoelace around his neck. So it is possible to commit suicide with only a trash bag and a shoelace! Read about the case on AP News on the Internet.
But I think it must have really hurt a lot and the spy was just able to tolerate it due to their military training.

Possible yes but might have really struggled a lot.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

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Sep 24, 2020
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That sounds like a really unpleasant way to go. Of course we all deserve an option of a peaceful way out.
 
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Alwaysbadtime

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I'm glad for them. Prisons are hellholes and being accused of being a spy in China can be another way to lock someone up for jack shit.

I'm sure there is no options for defense in China. One is just guilty.
 
Deadlyroses

Deadlyroses

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Mar 28, 2021
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I tried this once when I was a teenager and it was horrible. It's a horrible feeling. The feeling of suffocating and the feeling of the plastic in your mouth and nostrils. My SI kicked into high gear and I couldn't follow through with it. I was a sobbing panicked mess. Now I have my SN kit ready when I am. It's insane what people can bypass when they're desperate and hurting and backed into a corner. This guy had to have had an incomprehensible level determination.
 
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NormaJeane

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How did the prisoner commit suicide with only a plastic bag and a shoelace? It must be possible to implement of course, because he managed to do it.
 
Cameron Diazepam

Cameron Diazepam

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Dec 25, 2021
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Brutal, maybe he had some contraband ways to reduce inhibitions (drugs or booze?). Autopsy might have been revealing, but the only public info looks to be declaration of suicide. If I were capable in that situation I'd tell the guard they're going to see a balloon trick, but I'm petty that way. 😒
 
DetachedDreamer97

DetachedDreamer97

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Mar 17, 2018
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There's a way to make it less agonizing; to do that, you gotta purge the CO2 by the means of hyperventilation and hold your breath once you start to feel the effects of hypocapnia (tingling in extremities, dizziness, etcetera). As you do that, tighten the shoelace. Soon, you should black out and that'll be that.

Kinda like shallow water blackout.
 
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