GentleJerk

GentleJerk

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It's okay. Just take a deep breath, loosen those shoulders. Flick the kettle on, and make a nice warm cuppa. Relax.

I used to have trouble understanding this. Now, I see what it's really all about, and how this works in the grand scheme of things....

I now condone shoplifting from big corporations and supermarkets. Heck, I even encourage it.

"...In a world were everything already belongs to someone else, where I am expected to sell away my life at work, in order to get the money to pay for the minimum I need to survive, where I am surrounded by forces beyond my control or comprehension that obviously are not concerned about my needs or welfare, it (shoplifting) is a way to carve out a little piece of the world for myself- to act back upon a world that acts so much upon me. It is an entirely different sensation than the one I feel when I buy something..."

"...When I pay for something, I'm making a trade; I'm offering the money that I bought with my labor, my time, and my creativity, for a product or service that the corporation wouldn't share with me under any other circumstances. In a sense, we have a relationship based on violence: we negotiate an exchange not according to our respect or concern for each other, but according to the forces we can bring to bear on each other. Supermarkets know they can charge me a dollar for bread because I will starve if I do not buy it from them; they know they can't charge me four dollars, because I will go somewhere else. So our interaction revolves around unspoken threats, not love, and I am forced to give up something of my own to get anything from them..."

"...Everything changes when I shoplift. I'm no longer negotiating with faceless, inhuman entities that have no concern for my welfare; instead, I'm taking what I need without giving anything up. I no longer feel like I am being forced into an exchange, and I no longer feel as if have no control over the way the world around me dictates my life. I no longer have to worry about whether the pleasure I receive from the book I purchased was equal to the two hours of labor it cost me to be able to afford it. In these and a thousand other ways, shoplifting makes me feel liberated and empowered..."

"...The shoplifter wins her prize by taking risks, not by exchanging a piece of her life for it. Life for her is not something that must be sold away for seven or eight dollars an hour in return for survival; it is something that is hers because she takes it for herself, because she lays claim to it."
- Shoplifter.

The shoplifter makes do with an environment that has been conquered by capitalism and industry, where there is no longer a natural world from which to gather resources, and everything has become private property- without accepting it or the absurd way of life it entails. To shoplift is to affirm immediate needs over artificial and abstract "ethics" and other such ethereal constructs.

Shoplifting is a refusal of capitalism and the exchange economy. It's a denial that people deserve to eat, live, and die based on how effectively they are able to exchange their labor and capital with others.

It's a denial that a monetary value can be ascribed to everything, that having a delicious piece of chocolate in your mouth is worth exactly fifty cents, or that an hour of one person's life can really be worth ten dollars more than that of another person.

It's a refusal to accept the capitalist system, in which workers have to buy back the products of their own labor, at a profit to the owners of capital. Shoplifting says NO to all the objectionable features that have come to characterize the modern corporation.

It's an expression of discontent with the low wages and lack of benefits that so many exploiting corporations force their employees to suffer in the name of company profits.

It's a refusal to pay for low quality products that have been designed to break or wear out soon, in order to force consumers to buy more.

It's a refusal to fund the environmental damage that so many corporations perpetrate heartlessly in the course of manufacturing their products and building new stores.

It's a refusal to support the corporations that run private, local businesses into bankruptcy.

But what about the people in the corporations? What about their welfare? First of all, corporations are distinct from traditional private businesses in that they exist as separate financial entities from their owners. So the shoplifter is taking from a non-human entity, not directly from the pocket of a human being. Second, since workers are paid set wages (minimum wage for example) that depend more on how little the corporation can get away with paying, rather than on how much profit it is making, the shoplifter is not hurting the workforce at any given company either.

The stockholders, who are always far richer than your average employee or thief, are the ones who stand to lose a little if the company suffers significant losses; but realistically, no campaign of shoplifting could be intense enough to force any of the wealthy individuals who actually profit from these companies into poverty. Besides, modern corporations have money set aside for shoplifting losses, because they anticipate them. That's correct - these corporations are aware that there is enough dissatisfaction with them and their capitalist economy that people are going to steal from them remorselessly.

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I am recently having to witness people with full-time employment, line up at the food charity donation warehouses, because they can't afford basic necessities such as milk, bread, and toilet paper. These are law abiding citizens who toil away each day for a living, lining up with the drug addicts and the jobless, to beg for handouts. Like the great depression, there is still food production, and resources, but lately no one can afford to buy the things they need... This shit isn't right. Something is very wrong indeed.

So if you decide to shoplift, know that somewhere out there is a jerk who loves you and supports you 100%! Shoplifters of the world unite!
 
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castler

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I shoplift from Wally World weekly like clockwork - mainly food stuff but get Home/Garden goods every now and then. and gettin beer is suuuuppppeerrr EEEEEZZZZ.
 
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If you shoplift you'll eventually get caught and do time. Be very careful about this though, one guy shopfited a $160 jacket and it was his third felony and he got life without parole. The three strikes law makes this a very dangerous way to live. The three strikes law is terrible and should be abolished for sure, but you sure don't want to get three felonies.
 
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I shoplift from Wally World weekly like clockwork - mainly food stuff but get Home/Garden goods every now and then. and gettin beer is suuuuppppeerrr EEEEEZZZZ.
Just go to self checkout - 4011 - everything is bananas :)
 
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If you shoplift you'll eventually get caught and do time. Be very careful about this though, one guy shopfited a $160 jacket and it was his third felony and he got life without parole. The three strikes law makes this a very dangerous way to live. The three strikes law is terrible and should be abolished for sure, but you sure don't want to get three felonies.
Yeah I already got 2 felonies - last one obtained in '16, I'd rather CTB than do life w/o parole.
And their the ones that get away with it. I need to hire a moose so he can haul my shit for me.
 
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Molded foundation

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Well, well, well... What do we have here? Go du jail, griminal scum. :DDDDD
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Someone123

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Yeah I already got 2 felonies - last one obtained in '16, I'd rather CTB than do life w/o parole.
I just checked and 28 states have three strikes laws- it would be helpful for you to know if your state was one of them- the list is in this article on Wikipedia:

 
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I just checked and 28 states have three strikes laws- it would be helpful for you to know if your state was one of them- the list is in this article on Wikipedia:

Woo hoo! We're on that list: It's a Midwest state. I'll have to lie low or get false papers. Still waiting for that damn. Bus to careen around the Korner.
 
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Woo hoo! We're on that list: It's a Midwest state. I'll have to lie low or get false papers. Still waiting for that damn. Bus to careen around the Korner.
I wouldnt count on false papers working- it's too big of a risk- I just wouldnt commit any more crimes- or at least move to a state that doesnt have a three strikes law- it's no joke- thousands of people are locked up for life with no hope on appeal for minor things- lawyers keep appealing but it never works.
 
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If you shoplift you'll eventually get caught and do time. Be very careful about this though, one guy shopfited a $160 jacket and it was his third felony and he got life without parole. The three strikes law makes this a very dangerous way to live. The three strikes law is terrible and should be abolished for sure, but you sure don't want to get three felonies.
Only really relevant to the USA this one.
Also shoplifting is a felony? So glad I no longer live there!!
 
GentleJerk

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Only really relevant to the USA this one.
Also shoplifting is a felony? So glad I no longer live there!!
A bit of an exaggeration lol. No it's only petty crime. Not a serious or violent felony.

One of my best friends has been getting five finger discounts for as long as I've known him, over 15yrs now, and never had any issue. He's an inspiration. He eats organic grass fed beef steaks, and fancy imported cheeses like a king, despite not having the $ for it. Just be smart and don't get caught, simple.

Why should he have to subsist on powdered milk and cans of beans? Good on him, I say. He deserves steak and fancy cheese.
 
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sunsetting

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My moral self would thing you're just a filthy criminal but also that you're a pretty cool person! Can't feel bad about the big corps either.
 
GentleJerk

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My moral self would thing you're just a filthy criminal but also that you're a pretty cool person!
How contradictory. Thank you?

Morals?! So many laws have nothing to do with right and wrong. I think it's wrong to let people starve if they don't have money.

The law says you have to pay for food. That if you can't afford it, then you ought to be a starving cuck, and beg, hunt for scraps, or die. But if that's the choice, then it's better to do petty crime instead, and have food.

But of course, this is all part of a bigger picture of world domination.

The most successful criminals are the ones in the highrises who wear suits and ties, claiming to own everything... Hoarding wealth and keeping food from the people.


Shoplifting has greatly benefited my health and well being. Since I also save money in the process, I'm able to buy more food and medicine for my family, so it's also benefiting those around me. I don't do it for fun or to be cool. In a sane and just world, I wouldn't have had any need to start doing such a thing.
 
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Only really relevant to the USA this one.
Also shoplifting is a felony? So glad I no longer live there!!
Only if u hit a total over $300 is it grand theft,(q felony) but retailers only prosecute over $20 mainly Walmart since they get hit more than most retailers. But I only have a grand theft charge that's retail, the other is not.
 
AnnonyBox

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I mean, this thread encapaulates why I don't see it as a problem when riots turn to looting, but I myself would never do it, social anxiety, you know.
 
GentleJerk

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I mean, this thread encapaulates why I don't see it as a problem when riots turn to looting, but I myself would never do it, social anxiety, you know.
While I have a penchant for uprising, and can't help but feel entertained by looting and rioting- I only really agree with large chain supermarkets and fascist mega corps getting ripped off, when family and small private businesses get robbed it's definitely not right.

...Though I suppose when a society is designed in a way that creates such scarcity and animosity, that injustice becomes a commonplace thing and full scale riots / looting break out, clearly something is deeply wrong and the result is inevitable. Still, I feel sorry for the little guys only trying to stay afloat who get caught in the middle.

@osako I didn't think anyone would get that reference!
 
DeadButDreaming

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I'm going to eat McDonald's, drink a coke, watch Fox news, and use a homeless person's face to wipe my ass.
 
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