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james27032

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I'm thinking of water fasting prior drinking the SN. I'm doing this because i think it will make the body weaker and lighter. So the effectiveness will be greater. and probably hurt less. Since water fasting is quite euphoric due to ketones. I'm not talking about the few hours that is advised in the guides. I talking about a 40 day water fast. No food what so ever.

What is the communities stand point on this? Has anyone done this before?
 
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Ghost2211

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SN works very well. You really don't need that much prep. If you are obese losing some weight would make you need to ingest a bit less, but in the end poison is poison. No need to overthink it.
 
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I think it would make your body more resilient and organs work more efficient to fight poisons. Maybe lessen the time.
 
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james27032

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SN works very well. You really don't need that much prep. If you are obese losing some weight would make you need to ingest a bit less, but in the end poison is poison. No need to overthink it.

What about the pain killing and sedative effect of an extended fast. Last time i fasted without food and water for 6 days. I felt totally sedated. surely that will help. Since people say SN is a peaceful death, Just not painless.
 
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What about the pain killing and sedative effect of an extended fast. Last time i fasted without food and water for 6 days. I felt totally sedated.
Perhaps, but there are easier ways to get painkillers and seductive. If fasting works with your body and mind go for it, but if it will cause discomfort or suffering I would skip it.
 
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james27032

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Perhaps, but there are easier ways to get painkillers and seductive. If fasting works with your body and mind go for it, but if it will cause discomfort or suffering I would skip it.
Proper painkillers aren't easy to get. paracetamol doesn't doo much. Fasting for an extended period i would think is probably a better alternative. Since all you have to do is not eat.
 
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I'm thinking of water fasting prior drinking the SN. I'm doing this because i think it will make the body weaker and lighter. So the effectiveness will be greater. and probably hurt less. Since water fasting is quite euphoric due to ketones. I'm not talking about the few hours that is advised in the guides. I talking about a 40 day water fast. No food what so ever.

What is the communities stand point on this? Has anyone done this before?

A 40 day water fast will kill you. I'm not sure what the average is, but if you're not consuming any food or water, not even ice chips, you'll be dead within a couple weeks. It's just likely to be an unpleasant death. You can look up VSED for more info.
 
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A 40 day water fast will kill you. I'm not sure what the average is, but if you're not consuming any food or water, not even ice chips, you'll be dead within a couple weeks. It's just likely to be an unpleasant death. You can look up VSED for more info.
A 40 day water fast won't necessarily kill you, but it could. People have survived fasts as long and longer. I can understand the OP's line of thought regarding the reduction of pain. I've water fasted for a week before myself and it is an awesome experience.
 
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james27032

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A 40 day water fast won't necessarily kill you, but it could. People have survived fasts as long and longer. I can understand the OP's line of thought regarding the reduction of pain. I've water fasted for a week before myself and it is an awesome experience.

i found this "Animal studies show ketones inhibit neuron excitability, and this is one potential mechanism by which ketogenic diets help with seizures. ... In addition, the ketone body betahydroxybutyrate (BHB) can directly inhibit pain pathways in mice and rats, thus further reducing chronic pain. "

Also i anecdotally noticed i felt weak and sedated while fasting. I totally didn't give a fuck about anything. So i presume dying would be much easier.
 
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Hopeindeath!

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Are you planning to do this medically supervised, or on your own?
 
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Hopeindeath!

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Obviously on my own. Why would i need medical supervision?
You don't need medical supervision. I was just curious if you were going to do this with help or not. There is a health center which actually assists people in 40 day water fasts. I plan to water fast too.
 
Trainwreck

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A couple of resources for you:




I've read a lot about VSED, since it might be an option for me.
 
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A water fast will kill you only if you do not take the proper precautions such as not taking any potassium or salt supplements. Your body can and will sustain itself through a process called autophagy, where basically it recycles cells. There are several health benefits to fasting; weightloss, improved skin elasticity, mental clarity and etc..

This a wildly popular topic of reddit's fasting sub. There are plenty of user accounts of people going on prolonged fasts. I believe the longest fast up to date was over 200 days.
 
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I've done a 40 day water fast. You don't need any supplements if you drink enough water and slow enough that the electrolytes don't get flushed out.

But it would seem to me to be an unnecessary risk if the goal is to die by SN. Most report a relatively peaceful death as it is. Putting your body into a completely different state means other people's results are less reliable for you. Terminal cancer patients are often recommended to fast as a last resort because in the absence of processing food and fueling muscles, the body can focus entirely on healing. So while it is weaker and lighter, it's likely better equipped to fight the SN than it otherwise would be. You could increase the likelihood of death by not drinking in the last 48 hours or so, but that's going to drastically increase pain. And the fast doesn't put you into some bliss state where no pain exists. Occasionally you get little highs which allow you to think clearer than usual but it's not 24/7. I felt more or less the same as I do now most of the time, although others have reported it being painful at times too.

Paradoxical as it may sound, I'd only do a 40-day water fast in your situation if I wanted 40 days to contemplate life and how to proceed (or not). I'd try to minimise distractions and just ponder life and death. And if you ended up deciding SN is the way to go, I'd still likely wait until a week or so post-fast and follow the usual method so the chances of things going wrong are minimised. If you're certain SN is the way to go already, I think you'd be better off using the tried and tested methods here and skipping the fasting idea.
 
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Hopeindeath!

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As if any medical professional would endorse something like that...well maybe a forensic pathologist! :))
There are a couple of health centers in California that really medically supervise water fasts. If you search on the internet you will see for yourself.
 
autumnal

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I'm thinking of water fasting prior drinking the SN. I'm doing this because i think it will make the body weaker and lighter. So the effectiveness will be greater. and probably hurt less. Since water fasting is quite euphoric due to ketones. I'm not talking about the few hours that is advised in the guides. I talking about a 40 day water fast. No food what so ever.

What is the communities stand point on this? Has anyone done this before?

I don't know much about fasting (have always preferred eating personally) but might prolonged fasting slow down gastric emptying and reduce the absorbsion of SN?
 
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a_strange_day

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I think it's a bad idea. Keep it simple and stick with what has already been experimented and validated.
 
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i fasted for 2 days for chronic pain and just got a massive headache (and i was still in pain)

not to say fasting doesn't have amazing health benefits, just i wasn't able to unlock them.
 
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@james27032, I'm sorry you're contemplating such things. I personally can't see a reason for a long fast prior to SN, but if you have all your "ingredients" you can elect to stop the fast at any time, so if you feel it would be good for you then I say why not.

I wish you the best outcomes for you. x
 
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A 40 day water fast will kill you. I'm not sure what the average is, but if you're not consuming any food or water, not even ice chips, you'll be dead within a couple weeks. It's just likely to be an unpleasant death. You can look up VSED for more info.

I believe "water fast" means taking in water, without food.

As opposed to dry fast. ;)
 
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TimeToBiteTheDust

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I stopped having breakfast some so to get used to fast for when the time comes. I'm getting used to fast everyday, I'm eating less and doing exercise so I can lose weight and need less SN g to take.
 
Jean4

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Stan is rolling his eyes. His motto. Stop overthinking and keep it simple.
https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/stans-guide-to-sn.27535/
 
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breachingthevoid

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I'm thinking that a 40 day water fast is overkill. You're going to put your body into a weakened state, sure, but you're also going to risk a lot of other complications that could land you in the hospital - which may or may not be a good thing. There is an entire thread of successful SN attempts without this kind of drastic measure. It sounds like you're going for something "painful" and "extreme"...maybe a sign that you should think things over for a while before committing to anything?
 
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Tuumii

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Jan 26, 2020
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I've done dozens of extended fasts. Not very long though. My longest is currently a week, w/o nutrition supplements. I've been struggling with an eating disorder for a few years now, I've always wondered what it would be like to commit suicide by starvation. If I was to commit suicide, that would most likely be my go-to method. At the same time, I don't believe suicide should be a punishment, it should be more a form of self-love. No one should ever be so harsh to end their suffering. It's a hellish way to go..
 
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Sorry I thought for a second you wanted to go without water for forty days and prepared a careful answer to break it to you gently that it won't be possible :ahhha:
 
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UpandDownPrincess

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Such a fast seems unnecessary to me. Unless there is a spiritual reason for it, I jut think it's too much pressure on your system.

I used to date a guy who was a former monk and he would water fast every year for Lent (forty days.) For him, it was a part of his continued devotion but it still had challenges.

Are you able to be completely alone, without human contact, when you do this? Otherwise, I could see a concerned family member or friend calling in MH services or requesting a section for this behavior.
 
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yetme

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Oct 20, 2019
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I'm thinking of water fasting prior drinking the SN. I'm doing this because i think it will make the body weaker and lighter. So the effectiveness will be greater. and probably hurt less. Since water fasting is quite euphoric due to ketones. I'm not talking about the few hours that is advised in the guides. I talking about a 40 day water fast. No food what so ever.

What is the communities stand point on this? Has anyone done this before?

Do you have any expirience with water fasts? What was the longest?
40 days water fast could be pretty hardcore for a beginner. It also could be a life changing expirience. The first week is the hardest, then after that everything will be easy and you'll stop feeling hungry. Yeah some times you will feel happy and euphoric.
Long fasts have strong therapeutic effect on your body. If you're trying to heal yourself, then long water fast is an option. It could cure cancer.
I did water fasts and dry fasts. I personally prefer dry fasts. Fasting didn't help me with my problems, but overall it was a good expirience. Fasting won't kill you. There are people who choose life without food and water. It's a well known phenomenon.
PM me if you need some guidance.
 
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