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Sanctioned Suicide - Wikipedia
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Does that get it removed?Everyone should report it for misinformation.
I can already see the headlines: "Members of pro-death website launch coordinated attack on Wikipedia to take down article." I'm sure that would go down nicely.Everyone should report it for misinformation.
That'll be the day.Even as a part of the community I don't agree with the obsession critics still have with promoting this website. At least back in my day, one had to go out of one's way to find it. Next, will they fund billboards at Times Square saying "Do not visit www.sanctioned-suicide.net if you experience suicidal ideation".
It's funny how information about SS/SN/etc. is not only accessible, but publicly broadcast with attention-seeking dramatism by numerous major publications, yet the access to peaceful methods has progressively worsened over time. The whole approach strikes me as, shall we say uncoordinated. Perhaps it's a conspiracy to boost rope sales.now it's just being presented on a silver platter.
lmao this is exactly what happened with proana too.Textbook streisand effect, lmao.
I'm not even sure what the public's perception of those sites is but from what I've seen (personally visiting them), even among the ones somewhat dedicated to recovering (on one's own terms), there is a lot more allowances made for romanticizing/ encouragement via posting a shit ton of pictures and comparing one another's bodies, minutely detailed food intake, etc…subtle (or not so subtle) solicitation for commentary, "body checking" and so on..lmao this is exactly what happened with proana too.
everyone starts crying wolf saying "proana websites bad!" the public's perception of it is completely skewed, and forum signups go through the roof.
yeah that's what i'm getting at…the forums are very different from the tumblrs in the fact that they're more similar to ss in a way.In fact, I saw someone on Reddit making the case for proana websites (in favor of) while adamantly rebuking SaSu, and that really got me peeved.
The mental gymnastics were ridiculous.
we already have an icebergSS iceberg next?
i am constantly called a incel because i listen to the smithsThey really had to play up the whole "incel" side piece, didn't they?
In the opening and in the descriptions of the founders, criticism, etc.
That was so manipulative.
People see that word and their simple minds can go no further.
(Even though it's become a meme at this point and is so overused that it has lost not only its original and harmless meaning, but also the secondary infamous association.
It might as well be the new "loser" or something even more all encompassing.)
There might be overlap in discussions regarding the more legitimate issues and social consequences that some complain about both here and on those other sites, but that shouldn't be a problem considering any insinuation or evidence of the more nefarious factions that incite violence against women have been prohibited and ripe for reporting on SaSu, all the way back since when I first joined and the original founders were still the admins.
The community here is its own animal, there should be no "guilt by association" nonsense going on here, especially to the degree that it overshadows what the majority of members are about.
I'm so sick of the "incel" buzzword in general anyway tbh (can you tell?), sucks for all the people who have tangential issues to what's found in those spheres and are instantly dismissed and demonized via slapping them with the ol' "CEL" label.
Issues with your appearance/bullied for your looks? Incel.
Can't seem to have much luck finding a relationship? Incel.
Never had sex? Incel.
Trouble finding work and living with your parents? Incel.
Socially awkward and had a social faux pas? Incel.
Said something someone else didn't like?
Incel.
Pissed someone off for any and every reason?
Incel!
..so how many edits to the wiki article have there been so far?
Idk how to ascertain any of that information, and I'm dead tired.
But I find it hard to believe that what I am reading is the first draft.
I would have guessed it'd have been even worse.
Though maybe that's the ploy..
Does that get it removed?
That'd probably be the safer option.
Even having a more agreeable description could still draw unwanted attention I suppose.
Sanctioned Suicide - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Hey just to clarify, this wont have an impact on this website right? As much as I hate to admit, I'm largely dependent on this website for finding a bit of solace everyday.
I really hope the people saying that are just joking, don't take it too personally. I will often call myself a weeaboo as a joke for listening to sewerslvti am constantly called a incel because i listen to the smiths
yeh its a joke (i hope)I really hope the people saying that are just joking, don't take it too personally. I will often call myself a weeaboo as a joke for listening to sewerslvt
" ...you're encouraged just to fix the problems yourself. Anyone can edit it." You can't edit the wikipedia page at present. It's locked. If SaSu was a large corporation, there would now be a lawsuit in progress against wikipedia for defamation, and wikipedia would finish up having to pay substantial damages.You can't really report Wikipedia pages for inaccuracy…I mean, you can try, but you're encouraged just to fix the problems yourself. Anyone can edit it. That's why they tell schoolkids not to use it as a source.
That page probably violates a collection of Wikipedia's content guidelines, but I just don't have the energy to deal with it today…or any day, really. What you're supposed to do is start a talk page, carefully document the problems, fix them if possible, and then sit around and wait until the other guy puts back everything you just took out, he documents why that stuff should be there, then you bring in other editors, they post to the talk page, they make their edits … it can be a valuable process, but this particular Wikipedia article is really about the NYT's one little prurient outrage-porn piece from one particular day in 2022 or 2023 … whichever the hell it was. And nobody has time for a serious referendum on that shit. That's really the strongest argument that the page shouldn't even exist. I almost never edit Wikipedia though, so I don't have the rep to start a talk page with, "This is stupid. No one cares." I'd have to present a case, and I just can't. Can't even get all my meds in me this morning.
I really do wish our "saviors" would quit putting SaSu's name, URL, and now mirror site URLs every freaking place, though. Sometime last year, most of the search engines dropped SaSu from their list of results, even if you searched on the exact site name. Whether you approve of that move or not, it did probably keep the most inexperienced and impulsive people out of here. Which ought to matter if you actually care about such people. Unfortunately, evidence suggests that a lot of our pearl-clutchers do not. It's just exciting internet gossip to them. Maybe they're really leading a wholly-inappropriate demographic here and maybe they're not, but they could at least quit bouncing up and down in "horrified" glee about getting a glimpse of actual people who are ending their lives (generally for tragically understandable reasons) or are seriously considering it. Since they care about us all soooooo much.
(And yes, our "guests" can still see the Off Topic and Recovery forums. Go eat your popcorn somewhere else, watchers.)
1005 agree with you, a very good point indeed." ...you're encouraged just to fix the problems yourself. Anyone can edit it." You can't edit the wikipedia page at present. It's locked. If SaSu was a large corporation, there would now be a lawsuit in progress against wikipedia for defamation, and wikipedia would finish up having to pay substantial damages.