Why do celebrities always succeed in partial

[Cashewmilk]

Why is it that celebrities - people who generally win at life, get to win with fucking suicide with one attempt? Pretty sure it's their first because otherwise if they survived they would most likely end up in hospital - who really knows. It just seems like they're covered in lucky dust lol. Isn't it infuriating when you see in the news, people who seem to have gotten a good deal at life and good luck, always seem to succeed at partial hanging or an overdose! It just proves that some people are just always luckier than others.

What are your thoughts, why is it so difficult for many of us, and others who seemingly breeze through life and have amazing lives also succeed in having a quick, cheap easy peaceful death at their will? Yeah I know I sound disgusting and horrible blah blah story of my life lol. That's me! I'm a misanthrope.

Like I bet if Kylie Jenner or Selena Gomez hung themselves they would succeed on their first try. Just thinking of the latest teen sensations lol. Or Jennifer Aniston, or even fucking Oprah! Or my highschool classmate the perfect girl with the perfect life.

 

[Crumbledank]

Partial hanging is easier to walk away from without medical assistance, so we have no idea how many tries people have made, including the famous.

 

[Polly]

Yeah when Kate Spade did it I thought but would be my preferred method but when I want to ctb I m too distraught to do it

 

[FluffyDove]

Caroline Flack suceeded while her friend was at the shop..made it seem so easy almost

 

[Cashewmilk]

Partial hanging is easier to walk away from without medical assistance, so we have no idea how many tries people have made, including the famous.

Yup you're right about that! But a lot of celebs check themselves into a mental hospital and it becomes news, but there absolutely could be unknown practice attempts. But I feel like they hang themselves probably without looking it up online, because if they googled it they would have found out about N or something else.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

I think it's their first successful attempt. I think they might also have more time on their hands since day-to-day chores are taken care of by other people, so they don't need to also worry about appearing normal in between attempts...

 

[MaybeSoon]

They were probably just desperate enough to overide the survival instinct to go through with it.

 

[Halnas]

Drugs

 

[cant cry]

Hard to answer that since I don't know why so many people fail. I've just started looking into doing partial myself and it seemed like a sure thing. What goes wrong?

...If someone hangs themself their life must not have been too great.

 

[Lostandfound7]

We really have no way of knowing of their failed attempts..Celebrities can disappear from the spotlight for a season after failing..therapist visits after attempt will b confidential and kept from the public..ligature marks can b covered with makeup..

We just don't know until they're successful- then, it's Breaking News..

 

[Brick In The Wall]

I think there's multiple factors here. For 1 we can't tell how many attempts they had, for 2 they have access to good drugs. The final factor I don't see discussed is the level of despair.

I think many people who fail to CTB do so because they have some hope for an improved quality of life. When you already have everything you could ever want you don't have that hope as much anymore.

 

[Halnas]

Hard to answer that since I don't know why so many people fail. I've just started looking into doing partial myself and it seemed like a sure thing. What goes wrong?

...If someone hangs themself their life must not have been too great.

You can cancel it by just standing up. That is whats going wrong.
Everything it would take to succeed with it is to go through 10s of feeliing uncomfortable. But if your SI knows whats up, you stand up.
However, nearly 40% (?) of the suicides are hanging according to what i read somewhere. So most people actually do succeed.
They just aren't able to post here anymore. Also the first try is the one that counts, if the first try fails, your SI will be a hundred times harder to overcome in future tries.

 

[ManWithNoName]

But I feel like they hang themselves probably without looking it up online, because if they googled it they would have found out about N or something else.

Finding out about N is one thing, but procuring it is something else—even for a celebrity.

Hanging seems to be a very popular choice among the cases we read about, both famous and non-famous individuals. I'm guessing it is due to the simplicity - one need only strong enough material and secure enough knot. The vast majority of underage ctb's, as tragic as those are, most are done via hanging, so it can't exactly be rocket science.

They were probably just desperate enough to overide the survival instinct to go through with it.

This I think is key. If one is so desperate nothing would stop them. Think of those who use a train to ctb which would take considerable more courage. One would have to be in a truly bad place to use this method.

 

[GoneGoneGone]

Man as it was pointed out at that level when they are rich and still miserable, their SI is probably not a factor. They know their lives cannot improve, whereas some of us still hold a glimmer of hope. I even read about an actress or the wife of an actor who drowned herself in her pool by tying herself up with weights. That is a level of ice-through-the-veins that I'm pretty sure not many of us have...

 

[Halnas]

I even read about an actress or the wife of an actor who drowned herself in her pool by tying herself up with weights

Damn.
I want to have this dedication (or more likely: drugs).

 

[Kumachan]

Im sure there are some celebrities here, lurking on this forum:)

 

[Epsilon0]

When a celebrity commits suicide their death gets a lot of media coverage. This does not mean they are more or less successful than the average Joe.

 

[Jblack]

The death of a celebrity gets a lot of media coverage and hype so their deaths are front page news. Success in CTB, I feel, is a mater of just overcoming SI and doing it. Whatever has brought you to the edge of the cliff, it has to be enough to push you over. One thing that I do, and I am sure there are others, is to over think my method. I ask the usual questions, will it work, will it be quick and painless. In the case of hanging, the committed person simple puts the noose around their neck and ends it all. Do they really do all that investigation on a method? I suspect that the answer is no. It's like the Nike slogan, just do it. I am sure that I am not explaining this right but I think that successful suicides occur when the person is at peace with themselves and feel boxed in by the world.

 

[Aap]

Help?

 

[mpnf]

I'm with you. They're lucky even at death!

 

[Cashewmilk]

I'm with you. They're lucky even at death!

You get what I mean hah. My op isn't meant to be accurate or serious... I have a twisted sense of humor

 

[ManWithNoName]

Man as it was pointed out at that level when they are rich and still miserable, their SI is probably not a factor. They know their lives cannot improve, whereas some of us still hold a glimmer of hope.

That's a good point. When one has done everything and seen everything, been everywhere, has the resources to do everything, and yet, that still does not improve—one is literally painted into a corner because all hope is lost. And the melancholy gets worse and worse where at some point one has to "get the fuck out" of their situation—the SI is non existent.

 

[ohhgeeitsme]

I think there's multiple factors here. For 1 we can't tell how many attempts they had, for 2 they have access to good drugs. The final factor I don't see discussed is the level of despair.

I think many people who fail to CTB do so because they have some hope for an improved quality of life. When you already have everything you could ever want you don't have that hope as much anymore.

Maybe for some people, but I know personally, my failed attempts had nothing to do with hope. It was because I couldn't pass out and after a while, I'd give up because I was afraid of doing serious, permanent damage. Being paralyzed with akathisia is a special kind of hell I don't even want to think about it. Also, I honestly believe that some people's carotid arteries are located further in the neck and harder to get to or something than others. Some people can press against their neck with all their strength and still can't pass out and others can go in mere seconds. So no, I don't think that's the reason for so many failed attempts. I speak from experience.

Also, I wonder about all the celebrities are still alive today simply because they have failed to. We're not going to hear about that unless they speak openly about it. I don't that it's weird that celebrities, seem atleast, to succeed more easily. They have more resources and I'm sure they can also pay people enough money to help them achieve this. Those people obviously wouldn't come forward because it would be a crime.

 

[Oyoy]

Maybe they could afford help and the help covers there own tushy.

 

[ohhgeeitsme]

Also, we don't know much about celebrities as it seems. There is one particular successful actress to this day that comes to mind that is always thought of as one of the child stars that never turned to drugs or got into any trouble like so many child stars do. But I know this isn't true, like, at all. I was friends with someone very, very close to her and at one point in time, she was doing a whole list of hard drugs for at least an entire year or two.

 

[Living sucks]

You only hear about the successes....

 

[TimeToBiteTheDust]

It makes me jealous. I don't know if they do a research or they just simple try impulsively. But they make hanging look easy to do.

 

[muffin222]

I think most people who succeed at partial do so because they act on impulse out of a place of deep despair. They don't plan it out meticulously, they don't make goodbye threads, and they don't second guess. They just do it, out of sheer desperation and pain

 

[insurancepolicy]

I think most people who succeed at partial do so because they act on impulse out of a place of deep despair. They don't plan it out meticulously, they don't make goodbye threads, and they don't second guess. They just do it, out of sheer desperation and pain

This.

 

[TheQ22]

Celebrities might get "help" from professional bus drivers?

They'll definitely have the money and probably a lot of unusual connections.