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CuriousAboutThis

Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
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Why do people like selling themselves out to therapists I know I kind of adamant towards talking to one because I don't like supporting their business off of profiting my misery for the sake getting the insurance money out of me I don't understand why my mother doesn't understand that, damn.

Do any of you folks find therapists useful towards getting rid of suicidal thoughts and what were your experiences like I just don't like therapists I don't have any interest in them.
 
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Why do people like selling themselves out to therapists I know I kind of adamant towards talking to one because I don't like supporting their business off of profiting my misery for the sake getting the insurance money out of me I don't understand why my mother doesn't understand that, damn.

Do any of you folks find therapists useful towards getting rid of suicidal thoughts and what were your experiences like I just don't like therapists I don't have any interest in them.
If you have a good therapist it can be nice to temporarily talk to someone and have them sympathize with you. I go to a good one and she makes me feel like she cares but I think I'm going to stop going because I don't want to form a relationship with her knowing this is just a job for her
 
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If you have a good therapist it can be nice to temporarily talk to someone and have them sympathize with you. I go to a good one and she makes me feel like she cares but I think I'm going to stop going because I don't want to form a relationship with her knowing this is just a job for her
It's nice because talking to her gives me hope but it feels false which is why I want to stop going
 
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Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
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If you have a good therapist it can be nice to temporarily talk to someone and have them sympathize with you. I go to a good one and she makes me feel like she cares but I think I'm going to stop going because I don't want to form a relationship with her knowing this is just a job for her
I think that is why I don't like therapists because people seem like "oh therapists are your friends" type of crap when I know it is just a job to them and I would be a potential client so they can just get money out of the insurance which I don't want to waste time talking to someone while paying them to.
 
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I think that is why I don't like therapists because people seem like "oh therapists are your friends" type of crap when I know it is just a job to them and I would be a potential client so they can just get money out of the insurance which I don't want to waste time talking to someone while paying them to.
Not sure if you hate therapist more or capitalism...
 
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Ywah
I think that is why I don't like therapists because people seem like "oh therapists are your friends" type of crap when I know it is just a job to them and I would be a potential client so they can just get money out of the insurance which I don't want to waste time talking to someone while paying them to.
Yeah, it's definitely helpful for some people though. I won't be able to see my therapist after this year too so it's another thing about connecting with people that won't be there in the future
 
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I'm knocking therapists they definitely help and most of them definitely care because alot don't get paid that much and their work is really helpful I'm kind of just in the mood of not wanting to open up to anyone
 
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I have mixed feelings on therapists.. I mean, I know they do it for the money and want to help and all. They've definitely helped me with some of my anxiety issues..

But when it comes to things like suicide- even depression- I just don't think they fully understand it. It's like "ok, here's some pills. And try to get active and have positive thoughts. Feel better yet?? Still having suicidal thoughts? Something is definitely wrong with you"
I'm not to sure about the mental health system in that regard..
 
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I have mixed feelings on therapists.. I mean, I know they do it for the money and want to help and all. They've definitely helped me with some of my anxiety issues..

But when it comes to things like suicide- even depression- I just don't think they fully understand it. It's like "ok, here's some pills. And try to get active and have positive thoughts. Feel better yet?? Still having suicidal thoughts? Something is definitely wrong with you"
I'm not to sure about the mental health system in that regard..
A good therapist will let you know that it's understandable that you're in this much pain and it normally makes me feel better. I haven't told mine I'm suicidal and I won't because I don't want to be talked out of it
 
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It's nice because talking to her gives me hope but it feels false which is why I want to stop going
I can relate to this that you feel great for the time your with them but when you leave all the problems are still their. I wish I new if I was curable
 
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If you're unsure then there's still a chance. May as well go ahead and see a therapist it can't hirt
 
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If you're unsure then there's still a chance. May as well go ahead and see a therapist it can't hirt
I am seeing one. I think I've got a long journey ahead of me. I think I can get better to a degree but I think I've caused myself some real emotional damage that is going to last a long time until I can right it but there's apossibility of never being able to right it and carrying some damage for life
 
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I have chronic depression since 5.
I'm 66 now.
Been through therapy, been in mental ward lockdown, been on Prozac.
Been on Zoloft since 1990.
All this stuff is only temporary.
Mental health does not have the slightest idea how to fix chronic depression.
That is why there is so much suicide.
But they will tell you: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
They will not admit that it is a permanent solution to a permanent problem.
 
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CuriousAboutThis

Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
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Not sure if you hate therapist more or capitalism...
I don't mind capitalism I am a socialist-capitalist as long as there is a balance of both.
 
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Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
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I have chronic depression since 5.
I'm 66 now.
Been through therapy, been in mental ward lockdown, been on Prozac.
Been on Zoloft since 1990.
All this stuff is only temporary.
Mental health does not have the slightest idea how to fix chronic depression.
That is why there is so much suicide.
But they will tell you: suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.
They will not admit that it is a permanent solution to a permanent problem.
Keep people alive long enough to get as much out of them as possible then wait to see how life ends for them it seems.
 
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A good therapist will let you know that it's understandable that you're in this much pain and it normally makes me feel better. I haven't told mine I'm suicidal and I won't because I don't want to be talked out of it
Yeah I try to never tell them I'm suicidal- they'll just try to talk me out of it or tell me there's so much to live for. -which I never really understood. How can there be a lot to live for? I just don't get it
 
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Broken

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Keep people alive long enough to get out of them as much as possible them wait to see how life ends for them it seems.
I think some depressions are incurable. I think some are. I think everyone with depression is scared its incurable because you just don't know. I know I have a chance to get better but it doesn't take away from the fact that every day I'm shit scared that I won't no matter how hard I try
 
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Keep people alive long enough to get as much out of them as possible then wait to see how life ends for them it seems.
Right?
What I don't get is there's all these elderly people who have managed to live 90+ years and are still loving life
 
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Right?
What I don't get is there's all these elderly people who have managed to live 90+ years and are still loving life
There from a better generation
 
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I think so too.
Do you think they've had it easier than generations of today?
No I think they've had it harder. A whole generation of people who had to put their lives on the line. Probably made a lot of people depressed. They had no alternative but to fight or surrender. It made them stronger and whatever losses they had in the war freedom had prevailed. That must have been a glorious feeling
 
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No I think they've had it harder. A whole generation of people who had to put their lives on the line. They had no choice in the matter. Probably made a lot of people depressed. They had no alternative but to fight or surrender. It made them stronger and whatever losses they had in the war freedom had prevailed. That must have been a good feeling to know that whatever had happened, whatever you had lost, good had prevailed.
 
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littlelady774

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Do you think it had to do with the economy too? Things were cheaper and more accessible- like you could own a house, car, and have a family by age 25 on one income.
 
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CuriousAboutThis

Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
Dec 30, 2018
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No I think they've had it harder. A whole generation of people who had to put their lives on the line. Probably made a lot of people depressed. They had no alternative but to fight or surrender. It made them stronger and whatever losses they had in the war freedom had prevailed. That must have been a glorious feeling
I think my generation has it easy but we lack either discipline or self control or pick on each other too much and plus with social media and the true nature of humanity it just brings the best and the worst and the in between the extremes
 
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I think my generation has it easy but we lack either discipline or self control or pick on each other too much and plus with social media and the true nature of humanity it just brings the best and the worst and the in between the extremes
social media/technology is the devil. But it's to late to go back now. Yeah I agree about lack of discipline / self control. I think we live in a world where second chances are given when they shouldn't be and not given when they should be
 
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Do you think it had to do with the economy too? Things were cheaper and more accessible- like you could own a house, car, and have a family by age 25 on one income.
Yeah I agree there definitley contributing factors
 
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CuriousAboutThis

Uncertainty in life uncertainty for the next life
Dec 30, 2018
533
It's nice because talking to her gives me hope but it feels false which is why I want to stop going
I mean don't let me stop you from talking to therapists if it helps you I just think some seem to be fake because I know some just look for people like me so "they can help" just so they can get money out of me I don't like that type of relationship.
 
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color_me_gone

Sun is rising
Dec 27, 2018
970
Keep people alive long enough to get as much out of them as possible then wait to see how life ends for them it seems.
I would say that accurately sums it up.
 
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color_me_gone

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Dec 27, 2018
970
What I don't get is there's all these elderly people who have managed to live 90+ years and are still loving life
Not everybody suffers from depression. Some suffer only mild or temporary depression.
When you have severe, or chronic depression, it sucks.
 
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