greyhound

greyhound

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Oct 8, 2020
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I think I'm just about ready to order N.

I was in contact with A in Dec but held off to wrap some things up in my life.

Now I see that in the PPH we can either order from A or B/D.

Any people receive it recently from either in North America? Was a tracking number provided to you when it was shipped?
 
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eternalmelancholy

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Mar 24, 2021
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I've been reading through the N megathread. It seems like B/D is the way to go since A is not always reliable.

Is 1 bottle enough or do I need 2? 100ml@200mg/ml would mean each bottle would contain 20g of N. I believe this is above the lethal threshold.
 
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lifesucksiguess

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I've been reading through the N megathread. It seems like B/D is the way to go since A is not always reliable.

Is 1 bottle enough or do I need 2? 100ml@200mg/ml would mean each bottle would contain 20g of N. I believe this is above the lethal threshold.
I think the handbook is outdated. D didn't offer me 10g of N bottles, just 6.3g/100ml.

Lethal threshold is supposed to be between 2-10g depending on the person. Handbook says 1 bottle should be enough for most people, but a lot of people order two bottles to be safe. It seems like euthanasia clinics go for 15g. They have legal access to the drugs though.
 
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greyhound

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I've been reading through the N megathread. It seems like B/D is the way to go since A is not always reliable.

Is 1 bottle enough or do I need 2? 100ml@200mg/ml would mean each bottle would contain 20g of N. I believe this is above the lethal threshold.

According to PPH B/D gives you the option of 2 different kinds. One option works out to 20 g and the other option is 6.5 g per bottle.

A just had the latter option and most would order 2 bottles which I guess meant 13 g of N total. 6.5 g would probably work but might not. I read a thread on here of someone who drank 6.5 and woke up. 20 g seems like overkill but might be a good option if you're big/heavy.
 
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I think the handbook is outdated. D didn't offer me 10g of N bottles, just 6.3g/100ml.

Lethal threshold is supposed to be between 2-10g depending on the person. Handbook says 1 bottle should be enough for most people, but a lot of people order two bottles to be safe. It seems like euthanasia clinics go for 15g. They have legal access to the drugs though.


Man I was hoping the higher concentration N was available. I have a weak stomach and become extremely nauseous. Even with antiemetics I am worried about vomiting.

According to PPH B/D gives you the option of 2 different kinds. One option works out to 20 g and the other option is 6.5 g per bottle.

A just had the latter option and most would order 2 bottles which I guess meant 13 g of N total. 6.5 g would probably work but might not. I read a thread on here of someone who drank 6.5 and woke up. 20 g seems like overkill but might be a good option if you're big/heavy.

I want to be safe and go with 20g. So if the 20g bottle is unavailable I would need three 6.5g bottles? Man that is a lot of money. How hard is this stuff to source in person in Mexico as a gringo?
 
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Man I was hoping the higher concentration N was available. I have a weak stomach and become extremely nauseous. Even with antiemetics I am worried about vomiting.



I want to be safe and go with 20g. So if the 20g bottle is unavailable I would need three 6.5g bottles? Man that is a lot of money. How hard is this stuff to source in person in Mexico as a gringo?

Are there any reports of doing N as an IM shot? I'm also worried about puking. IV is not possible by yourself as you'd pass out too quick. But IM could work and might actually increase the bioavailability.
 
eternalmelancholy

eternalmelancholy

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Mar 24, 2021
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Are there any reports of doing N as an IM shot? I'm also worried about puking. IV is not possible by yourself as you'd pass out too quick. But IM could work and might actually increase the bioavailability.

I don't think it is feasible to hold 100ml+ IM. The welt would be the size of a closed fist. Not to mention where are you going to find 100ml sized syringes?
 
greyhound

greyhound

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Oct 8, 2020
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I don't think it is feasible to hold 100ml+ IM. The welt would be the size of a closed fist. Not to mention where are you going to find 100ml sized syringes?

Yeah that's a good point. I was researching IM shots recently (for opiates) and the most per shot seems to be around 3 mL
 
Rabitfever

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According to PPH B/D gives you the option of 2 different kinds. One option works out to 20 g and the other option is 6.5 g per bottle.

A just had the latter option and most would order 2 bottles which I guess meant 13 g of N total. 6.5 g would probably work but might not. I read a thread on here of someone who drank 6.5 and woke up. 20 g seems like overkill but might be a good option if you're big/heavy.
What happened to the person who woke up? Just curious if there can be permanent damage in case that happens
 
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Pharmaruined

Nobody gets out alive
Sep 10, 2020
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Are there any reports of doing N as an IM shot? I'm also worried about puking. IV is not possible by yourself as you'd pass out too quick. But IM could work and might actually increase the bioavailability.
U could do an IV drip by yourself..if u know how to use a butterfly scalpel set.

just get the stand and flow line and a tiny saline bag, inject the 100ml into the saline.. or empty most of the saline if you're worried about dilution.. but I don't think it's an issue
 
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greyhound

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What happened to the person who woke up? Just curious if there can be permanent damage in case that happens

I can't recall exactly it was someone on this forum. I think they woke up feeling like complete death and there may have been lasting damage. Maybe someone else remembers and can link to it.
U could do an IV drip by yourself..if u know how to use a butterfly scalpel set.

just get the stand and flow line and a tiny saline bag, inject the 100ml into the saline.. or empty most of the saline if you're worried about dilution.. but I don't think it's an issue

Is it possible to buy this stuff over the counter?
 
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DemonicAngel

DemonicAngel

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Jan 21, 2021
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I bought from B/D and I am in the US. He was prompt and respectful. I paid in western union late Friday afternoon he picked it up that same day. The next day he shipped the package (I bought 2 bottles and my total at the western union counter was 708) I got my package on Tuesday!
 
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In2TheVoid

In2TheVoid

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Feb 18, 2021
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I bought from A in March, was a smooth experience
 
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Rabitfever

Rabitfever

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I bought from B/D and I am in the US. He was prompt and respectful. I paid in western union late Friday afternoon he picked it up that same day. The next day he shipped the package (I bought 2 bottles and my total at the western union counter was 708) I got my package on Tuesday!
Have you heard of anyone in the US getting any visits from any authorities?
 
Thegoldenapples

Thegoldenapples

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Aug 12, 2020
349
I read a thread on here of someone who drank 6.5 and woke up. 20 g seems like overkill but might be a good option if you're big/heavy.
I think I know the one you're talking about. But he didn't undertand that he had to drink it all at once. Someone else posted about it and he drunk some, fell asleep, woke up and drunk some more. The dude didn't undertand why it didn't work.

I brought from A. Found him super easy to deal with. Responded within 24 hours. Was late last year though. Just asked for tracking number and he gave it. Arrived within a week which is quite impressive considering I'm all the way at the bottom of the world.

Vomiting is super rare but i undertand the concern. Meto is pretty strong. Just do test of 10mg and see how your stomach reacts. If all good, go with stat dose. Otherwise go with 48 hour method.
What happened to the person who woke up? Just curious if there can be permanent damage in case that happens
Damage hasn't been reported from what I've seen. If people surivie they just feel like shit for a few weeks and recover back to normal.
 
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Rabitfever

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Damage hasn't been reported from what I've seen. If people surivie they just feel like shit for a few weeks and recover back to normal.
What if feeling like shit is my normal?
I think I know the one you're talking about. But he didn't undertand that he had to drink it all at once. Someone else posted about it and he drunk some, fell asleep, woke up and drunk some more. The dude didn't undertand why it didn't work.

I brought from A. Found him super easy to deal with. Responded within 24 hours. Was late last year though. Just asked for tracking number and he gave it. Arrived within a week which is quite impressive considering I'm all the way at the bottom of the world.

Vomiting is super rare but i undertand the concern. Meto is pretty strong. Just do test of 10mg and see how your stomach reacts. If all good, go with stat dose. Otherwise go with 48 hour method.

Damage hasn't been reported from what I've seen. If people surivie they just feel like shit for a few weeks and recover back to normal.
Also, are you in the US?
 
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Pharmaruined

Nobody gets out alive
Sep 10, 2020
247
I can't recall exactly it was someone on this forum. I think they woke up feeling like complete death and there may have been lasting damage. Maybe someone else remembers and can link to it.


Is it possible to buy this stuff over the counter?
Yea definitely.. just need the butterfly and saline.. that's everywhere.. also a stand If u don't have any way to elevate the bag. but u could use a hanger and hang it somewhere

Amazon product ASIN B00B9IYZS0
 
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azazel_djinn

azazel_djinn

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May 13, 2021
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I tried to order from D (as per pph2021) last Sunday. He originally said he will deliver tomorrow but then on Monday, he said he will deliver later. Since he was also ignoring a lot of my emails during the process including one asking for the photos of N bottles, I decided to chicken out. Maybe I was not patient enough...but this whole thing just feels very weird.
 
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meetinggodsoon

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Jan 15, 2021
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I tried to order from D (as per pph2021) last Sunday. He originally said he will deliver tomorrow but then on Monday, he said he will deliver later. Since he was also ignoring a lot of my emails during the process including one asking for the photos of N bottles, I decided to chicken out. Maybe I was not patient enough...but this whole thing just feels very weird.
What is the Price?
 
azazel_djinn

azazel_djinn

Member
May 13, 2021
55
Tell me on chat :) is N is better then SN?
I don't know, but if I remember correctly PPH says N is the closest to "peaceful pill" out of all the methods mentioned in the book. SN feels a bit unreliable
 
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Thegoldenapples

Thegoldenapples

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Aug 12, 2020
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What if feeling like shit is my normal?

Also, are you in the US?
Na, I'm in the the Southern Hemisphere. Lol well yeah, you'll revert back to feeling like shit but worse. That's what I'm more scared of than anything. The intenseness of failure.
I tried to order from D (as per pph2021) last Sunday. He originally said he will deliver tomorrow but then on Monday, he said he will deliver later. Since he was also ignoring a lot of my emails during the process including one asking for the photos of N bottles, I decided to chicken out. Maybe I was not patient enough...but this whole thing just feels very weird.
Sorry to hear about your experience. Sometimes A was a selective scammer but D has been such a recent seller, we haven't heard of that happening yet. You should double check the email with someone who has brought off him. Sometimes scammers have one letter changed.
 
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The Lonely

The Lonely

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Jan 26, 2021
406
Man I was hoping the higher concentration N was available. I have a weak stomach and become extremely nauseous. Even with antiemetics I am worried about vomiting.



I want to be safe and go with 20g. So if the 20g bottle is unavailable I would need three 6.5g bottles? Man that is a lot of money. How hard is this stuff to source in person in Mexico as a gringo?
I'm kind of concerned about this amount of stuff to swallow and its concentration .

Last night I read at PPH about the "failing cases". According to that, the ones who failed had a prior "drinking habit problem". I Got shocked !!

It was supposed to have a drink with it and now as I am one of those who has a drinking past, (my tolerance is high), so definitely I will need the 20g !!
 
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boc

Experienced
May 19, 2021
252
I read that there is a shortage of the more concentrated stuff even for vets right now. Hopefully should be able to source the higher concentration at the end of the summer.

 
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The Lonely

The Lonely

Arcanist
Jan 26, 2021
406
I was Reading at PPH and he mentioned a about the N bottles of 100ml , with :

6.5 mg/ml
20 mg/ml
60 mg/ml
65 mg/ml
200 mg/ml.

PPH says that a bottle of 60mg/ml would be enough "in the vast majority of the cases". So then he mentioned about the folks who Failed! And they failed because of a previous alchool abuse history. (According to this I will need more than 60mg/ml)!

But I just hear about sellers having the 6.5 and 20's bottles only.

I got a little surprised… it would be a lot to swallow… The price gets higher too(…)
Would you guys mind discussing this? I just realized I need to do some math here…
 
intheweeds

intheweeds

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Mar 20, 2019
182
Does B/D accept crypto? And can someone point me in the right direction for getting the contact info?

I have the info for A, but wasn't aware there was a new seller until seeing this post.
 
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checkouttime

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Jul 15, 2020
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Does B/D accept crypto? And can someone point me in the right direction for getting the contact info?

I have the info for A, but wasn't aware there was a new seller until seeing this post.
details are in the new pph, found in the resource section.
 
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