Venting Low IQ

[Eren]

It has always cost me more than the rest to understand things, study etc ...

I work as a programmer, which you might think that I don't have a low IQ then, but the reality is that in my work most things are repetitive, and you don't need a normal IQ to do them. In fact, I end up doing the most repetitive things because of this, everything costs me a lot more than the others, I need much more help and it ends up affecting my work hard (I have lost jobs because of this).

I also have serious problems concentrating on something, sometimes they repeat something 20 times and I still forget after 5 minutes of it, this also affects my work very negatively.

It's really frustrating and depressing to feel this way and know it won't change (I've always been that way)

Does anyone else feel this way?

 

[Anonymoussn]

It has always cost me more than the rest to understand things, study etc ...

I work as a programmer, which you might think that I don't have a low IQ then, but the reality is that in my work most things are repetitive, and you don't need a normal IQ to do them. In fact, I end up doing the most repetitive things because of this, everything costs me a lot more than the others, I need much more help and it ends up affecting my work hard (I have lost jobs because of this).

I also have serious problems concentrating on something, sometimes they repeat something 20 times and I still forget after 5 minutes of it, this also affects my work very negatively.

It's really frustrating and depressing to feel this way and know it won't change (I've always been that way)

Does anyone else feel this way?

Do you actually know that you have a low IQ, or do you just feel this way? The more I interact with people (in 'real life', I dont mean on this forum), the more I am convinced that I'm surrounded by morons.

I genuinely think that just by being a programmer and someone who can articulate themselves well, you're already very clearly more intelligent than most.

Being a programmer might be easy once you know how, but learning the rules and syntax is similar to learning another language, and is something that a lot of people fail to get off the ground in doing.

I sincerely believe you're not giving yourself enough credit. And I think if you've taken a low scoring IQ test we should question the integrity of the test!

 

[autumnal]

It has always cost me more than the rest to understand things, study etc ...

I work as a programmer, which you might think that I don't have a low IQ then, but the reality is that in my work most things are repetitive, and you don't need a normal IQ to do them. In fact, I end up doing the most repetitive things because of this, everything costs me a lot more than the others, I need much more help and it ends up affecting my work hard (I have lost jobs because of this).

I also have serious problems concentrating on something, sometimes they repeat something 20 times and I still forget after 5 minutes of it, this also affects my work very negatively.

It's really frustrating and depressing to feel this way and know it won't change (I've always been that way)

Does anyone else feel this way?

What specifically makes you think you have a low IQ? What were your school or university marks like? Have you ever taken a professionally administered IQ test? It's possible you may have some kind of learning disorder or other condition without necessarily having a low IQ. Difficulties in concentrating can also be due to conditions such as ADHD among others.

 

[Eren]

Do you actually know that you have a low IQ, or do you just feel this way? The more I interact with people (in 'real life', I dont mean on this forum), the more I am convinced that I'm surrounded by morons.

I genuinely think that just by being a programmer and someone who can articulate themselves well, you're already very clearly more intelligent than most.

Being a programmer might be easy once you know how, but learning the rules and syntax is similar to learning another language, and is something that a lot of people fail to get off the ground in doing.

I sincerely believe you're not giving yourself enough credit. And I think if you've taken a low scoring IQ test we should question the integrity of the test!

No, I have not done any tests, I only rely on my experience learning and solving problems, it costs me much more than others.

No, I have not done any tests, I only rely on my experience learning and solving problems, it costs me much more than others.

I have considered ADHD many times, but at least in my case I am not hyperactive, I only have a hard time paying attention to something, I am forgetful but at an extreme level.

 

[laiduponit]

I've be interested in intelligence and IQ for a long while, especially when young and more naive in school. After many years of just watching people whom are academically intelligent and those whom are 'naturally' intelligent without the academic performance to show it then I just came to accept that it doesn't matter.

Being intelligent isn't by doing tests and regurgitating information to pass a IQ test which just tells you a vague number not correlating to other factors, e.g your creative mindset, your personality and your motivational drives. Being intelligent is being able to entertain thoughts without fully accepting them as reality, doing your own research and being independent.

Next time you think about your IQ just consider, what benefits does it actually mean. If it isn't helping you in life, it has none.

Long story short, don't worry about IQ and just worry about the present. Intelligence matters as much as you utilize it, someone heavily educated and intelligent who sits around playing video games and not using their smarts is worse off then someone less intelligent who utilizes all 100% of it.

 

[Anonymoussn]

No, I have not done any tests, I only rely on my experience learning and solving problems, it costs me much more than others.



I have considered ADHD many times, but at least in my case I am not hyperactive, I only have a hard time paying attention to something, I am forgetful but at an extreme level.

You've mentioned your ability to program, it also looks like from the text under your name you may speak Spanish? It seems to me you are capable of learning things that many others struggle with, and never get the hang of.

The point that @autumnal makes is a very good one. Some of the greatest minds the world has ever seen have had learning difficulties. Albert Einstein was dyslexic. They're also very often unnoticed. A good teacher knows that the students in their class need to learn in specific ways, or need more help with some things and is receptive towards that. If you've not had a teacher with the skill and empathy to respect that, then I can understand how you might have struggled if you do indeed have a learning difficulty.

We also have different styles in which we like to learn. Have you ever considered which way you think you are most receptive towards learning?

VARK Questionnaire: How do you learn best?

Fill in the VARK questionnaire to find out your learning style - do you prefer to use Visual, Aural, Read/write or Kinesthetic learning strategies, or a combination?

vark-learn.com

Some of us like to learn using Visual aids, others through listening etc.

If you have always been taught/learnt in away that does not suit your style of learning. This might be why you arent as receptive towards information you're trying to take in. If you are able to consider which way of learning you like best, and try to stick to that in future, you might get more production and enjoyment out of learning.

 

[Eren]

You've mentioned your ability to program, it also looks like from the text under your name you may speak Spanish? It seems to me you are capable of learning things that many others struggle with, and never get the hang of.

The point that @autumnal makes is a very good one. Some of the greatest minds the world has ever seen have had learning difficulties. Albert Einstein was dyslexic. They're also very often unnoticed. A good teacher knows that the students in their class need to learn in specific ways, or need more help with some things and is receptive towards that. If you've not had a teacher with the skill and empathy to respect that, then I can understand how you might have struggled if you do indeed have a learning difficulty.

We also have different styles in which we like to learn. Have you ever considered which way you think you are most receptive towards learning?

VARK Questionnaire: How do you learn best?

Fill in the VARK questionnaire to find out your learning style - do you prefer to use Visual, Aural, Read/write or Kinesthetic learning strategies, or a combination?

vark-learn.com

Some of us like to learn using Visual aids, others through listening etc.

If you have always been taught/learnt in away that does not suit your style of learning. This might be why you arent as receptive towards information you're trying to take in. If you are able to consider which way of learning you like best, and try to stick to that in future, you might get more production and enjoyment out of learning.

Spanish is my native language, and my level of English is really low (I use google translate all the time)

Thanks for the help, I'll take a look at it, but my concern is not about something in particular, in general everything costs me much more to understand than to the others, I think it is difficult to explain.

 

[Deleted member 17949]

I'm pretty sure I'm low IQ too so no point in me even trying at life.

 

[Giraffey]

I have considered ADHD many times, but at least in my case I am not hyperactive, I only have a hard time paying attention to something, I am forgetful but at an extreme level.

You don't need to be hyperactive to have ADHD, you may just have the 'ADD' component if you struggle to concentrate and pay attention, being forgetful is a common symptom of the disorder. If I were to pose you a programming problem, would you be able to work it out eventually or would you just not understand it?

If you genuinely had a low IQ then I suspect that instead of it "costing you more time than everyone else" to understand a problem, it simply wouldn't make sense at all. Again, I'm not a specialist, but I think it is worth seeking a professional opinion as to ADHD/ADD.

 

[Anonymoussn]

Spanish is my native language, and my level of English is really low (I use google translate all the time)

Thanks for the help, I'll take a look at it, but my concern is not about something in particular, in general everything costs me much more to understand than to the others, I think it is difficult to explain.

I can't tell that your English is bad. I wouldnt have known you werent a native. And I know from experience using Google Translate that often the grammar and structure it gives out is very incorrect, so even if you are using Google Translate you clearly have a level of proficiency to be able to converse with us without giving away that you arent comfortable speaking English.

And even if you're not happy with your level, the fact that you're conversing with us and getting good practice is a perfect example of something that you're capable of continuously improving at.

I'm pretty sure I'm low IQ too so no point in me even trying at life.

I have never thought that about you. If you have a low IQ, God help the rest of us!

 

[4eyebiped]

I often find average to higher IQ people tend to think they have low IQ while truly low IQ people tend to think they are smart (dunning Kruger effect). Michelle Thaller, a high IQ and accomplish woman, has often given speeches about her struggles with this issue. She attended Harvard and currently works at NASA.

The problem is that we sometimes get so caught up in thinking we are dumb and incapable. This occupies our thoughts, sometimes consumes them, to the point it disrupts our performance. We then blame that poorer performance on low IQ when it was actually self inflicted.

 

[Eren]

I can't tell that your English is bad. I wouldnt have known you werent a native. And I know from experience using Google Translate that often the grammar and structure it gives out is very incorrect, so even if you are using Google Translate you clearly have a level of proficiency to be able to converse with us without giving away that you arent comfortable speaking English.

And even if you're not happy with your level, the fact that you're conversing with us and getting good practice is a perfect example of something that you're capable of continuously improving at.

I have never thought that about you. If you have a low IQ, God help the rest of us!

I use it all the time, including right now.

I've be interested in intelligence and IQ for a long while, especially when young and more naive in school. After many years of just watching people whom are academically intelligent and those whom are 'naturally' intelligent without the academic performance to show it then I just came to accept that it doesn't matter.

Being intelligent isn't by doing tests and regurgitating information to pass a IQ test which just tells you a vague number not correlating to other factors, e.g your creative mindset, your personality and your motivational drives. Being intelligent is being able to entertain thoughts without fully accepting them as reality, doing your own research and being independent.

Next time you think about your IQ just consider, what benefits does it actually mean. If it isn't helping you in life, it has none.

Long story short, don't worry about IQ and just worry about the present. Intelligence matters as much as you utilize it, someone heavily educated and intelligent who sits around playing video games and not using their smarts is worse off then someone less intelligent who utilizes all 100% of it.

I agree, a simple test or having good grades does not always say that someone is or is not intelligent, I see intelligence (rational intelligence) as the ability to solve problems in the shortest possible time. That is exactly what I am complaining about, I need much more time and help than others to do exactly the same.

You don't need to be hyperactive to have ADHD, you may just have the 'ADD' component if you struggle to concentrate and pay attention, being forgetful is a common symptom of the disorder. If I were to pose you a programming problem, would you be able to work it out eventually or would you just not understand it?

If you genuinely had a low IQ then I suspect that instead of it "costing you more time than everyone else" to understand a problem, it simply wouldn't make sense at all. Again, I'm not a specialist, but I think it is worth seeking a professional opinion as to ADHD/ADD.

It is possible, I am extremely forgetful, but as I said before, at an extreme level and with serious consequences in work/studies, and I have been like this forever.

 

[Painless_end]

Fuck IQ test. EQ and mental robustness to face life till natural death are required to get through life.

I used to be a very high IQ person, it didn't help me when I had to do job. Of course, that was more because I had very limited motivation & mental energy levels, not necessarily any kind of negative impact of high IQ.

Don't feel bad because of any perceptions about yourself that might not be true. As others above noted, you might be facing some other kind of learning or developmental challenges that have nothing to do with IQ.

Don't beat yourself up because of others' perception of you either.

 

[autumnal]

It is possible, I am extremely forgetful, but as I said before, at an extreme level and with serious consequences in work/studies, and I have been like this forever.

I would suggest perhaps doing a screening test online, and if the results suggest possible ADD/ADHD asking your doctor for a referral to a therapist who specialises in adult ADD/ADHD. I know people who have been undiagnosed and really frustrated for the majority of their lives, who find it absolutely life-changing to finally get a diagnosis and some treatment.

 

[Giraffey]

I would suggest perhaps doing a screening test online, and if the results suggest possible ADD/ADHD asking your doctor for a referral to a therapist who specialises in adult ADD/ADHD. I know people who have been undiagnosed and really frustrated for the majority of their lives, who find it absolutely life-changing to finally get a diagnosis and some treatment.

I can testify to what @autumnal says here. I was only recently diagnosed and have struggled my whole life undiagnosed and with no treatment. ADHD is not even something that I'd considered until by absolute chance I read an article that seemed to explain all of my problems throughout life - things that I hadn't even thought of as problems but mere 'personality traits'.

Finally getting the correct diagnosis and treatment was life-changing. As autumnal says, start with a quick test or two online and read some people's stories to see if you can relate to their experiences. If you can then I would definitely recommend speaking to a professional about it.

 

[Heart Shards]

Do you actually know that you have a low IQ, or do you just feel this way? The more I interact with people (in 'real life', I dont mean on this forum), the more I am convinced that I'm surrounded by morons.

I genuinely think that just by being a programmer and someone who can articulate themselves well, you're already very clearly more intelligent than most.

Being a programmer might be easy once you know how, but learning the rules and syntax is similar to learning another language, and is something that a lot of people fail to get off the ground in doing.

I sincerely believe you're not giving yourself enough credit. And I think if you've taken a low scoring IQ test we should question the integrity of the test!

One could debate whether intelligence can truly be measured. Do standardized test really give a scale of how sharp a mind is? What about minds that think beyond those perimeters, what about brains that process information differently than most people? People thought Einstein was low IQ, but we learned maybe his brain was wired differently--the theory of relativity still stands.

 

[Eren]

One could debate whether intelligence can truly be measured. Do standardized test really give a scale of how sharp a mind is? What about minds that think beyond those perimeters, what about brains that process information differently than most people? People thought Einstein was low IQ, but we learned maybe his brain was wired differently--the theory of relativity still stands.

It is true, but at least in my case, it is an obstacle to the goals that I want to achieve at the job level.

 

[Squiddy]

I know how you feel. I also have a hard time concentrating on things and I also can't process what people say sometimes

 

[Tharik77]

I'm a very realistic guy, I hate self-help and motivation, it's just useless placebos that cheaters sell. Capitalist society consists of only two classes, the intelligent and the dumb. Smart people are lucky enough to get away with it, but donkeys are slaughtered and enslaved.

The IQ is the only thing that really matters to succeed in this world, to deny this fact is naive. To say that we are all the same is a big mistake. Each one is born with a capacity, and that is impossible to change. Being born with a high IQ is pure genetics and luck.

I have met people with high IQ who are extremely perceptive, but who had no knowledge of anything. And I've met people with low IQ, but with high knowledge.

I feel a deep envy of people with a high IQ, as many of them waste an enviable gift that I would like to have just to understand the universe in a mathematical language, as I am passionate about physics and intrigued by the great mystery of existence.

I have a low IQ, but on the other hand I was cursed with a critical sense. I see things that few see, and that makes me original, I don't need religion, ideologies and other nonsense. I am who I really am, and that is a privilege.

Having a low IQ was the reason that led me to a deep depression over the years. I couldn't deal with the fact that my nature didn't allow me to understand complex subjects that I'm passionate about. But knowing that I have a low IQ allowed me to know what my size is, today I know what I can achieve and what I cannot achieve. Which puts me at an advantage over the big crowd, who are just deluded people who think they can win, but really can't. For shining in life is for the few, and we have to deal with it.

Maybe I'm the only one here who really understands you... Although having a low IQ is frustrating, I learned to deal with it. Nietzsche taught us that to achieve enlightenment we must love our destiny and accept life as it is.

You made a big mistake by saying: "But at least in my case, it is an obstacle to the goals that I want to achieve at the job level". You have to understand that: "You are not your job. You are not how much you earn or how much money you have in the bank. You are not the car you drive. You are not the money in your wallet. You are not the pants you wear." - Fight Club, best movie ever made.

 

[Busdriver]

@Tharik77, Nice post.
But if you don't like anything then you have to do a job you hate till you are 70, forced like slavery, because you need money to survive.

I assume you found a job you don't dislike and can keep it up till 70?

 

[Meditation guide]

I've known some low IQ people and no one here writes like they have a low IQ and believe me, it stands out when someone on a forum does.

 

[Eren]

Nice post.
But if you don't like anything then you have to do a job you hate till you are 70, forced like slavery, because you need money to survive.

I assume you found a job you don't dislike and can keep it up till 70?

I don't even think I can keep this job long

 

[Busdriver]

I don't even think I can keep this job long

I understand everything you say and feel bad for you. I know what it is like. I have similar problems.

My previous post was actually directed to @Tharik77

 

[GoodPersonEffed]

Spanish is my native language, and my level of English is really low (I use google translate all the time)

Thanks for the help, I'll take a look at it, but my concern is not about something in particular, in general everything costs me much more to understand than to the others, I think it is difficult to explain.

I apologize if it seems like I am negating you. I don't expect or demand that you accept what I say here, but I do hope you'll consider the outside perspective.

You don't communicate like you have a low level of intelligence but high. I think you may lave difficulties learning, but you grasp things well once you comprehend them. With a low IQ, you would not be able to comprehend or grasp.

I am a native English speaker with an intermediate level of Spanish and also use Google translate, and I know Spanish well enough to make corrections to the bad translations, but not enough for it to appear I am fully fluent in Spanish. Your translations appear as if you are fully fluent in English. I have extensive training in writing and editing in a variety of technical and creative genres, and your posts have always stood out to me as highly articulate and intelligent.

My father had a learning disability. He always felt stupid, and yet he had a high degree of technical knowledge as a police detective in a major city in burglary, robbery, and then in the most technical division at that time, homicide. He became an acknowledged and highly respected master at crime scene investigation, but also had social anxiety and hated interrogations and going on the stand in court. It was difficult for him to learn, things, but he applied himself and took all the time and effort needed to pass all the tests and learn all the codes, laws, methods, and procedures. I even assisted him in teaching a few courses. He really knew his stuff and had a high reputation. His critical thinking skills were not the highest, he tended to go along with ideologies and procedures, but I also know that he wasn't taught critical thinking skills, which may have helped him to better process information and expand his knowledge beyond more limited subject areas.

I have a high IQ but I test exactly average in math and can't retain anything about math or science. It has always been very frustrating. I feel like I have the intelligence, but I just can't quite get it. I worked my ass off for a B in statistics, one of the only two B's I got in university (the other was in drawing, and also it was not a very difficult school but a lower-tier state school), but I never felt confident in statistics and retained nothing.

I understand that you don't think some people here get what you mean, and I guess perhaps we don't. But truly, you do not at all present like you have a low IQ, rather the inaccurate low opinion of someone who criticized you from a position of power and that you internalized. I also felt like that about my father, that someone told him he was stupid and incapable and he believed it. He had a shitty support system growing up. When he really wanted to know something, he fucking learned it, in his own way and his own time. He even became a master SCUBA diver just shy of instructor level, and had certifications in search and recovery, with a lot of technical learning and math calculations, and I don't think math was a strong point for him. Wherever he was interested, he was capable of learning and grasping it with application of effort. The things he couldn't get, he'd get frustrated as fuck, but as I recall it was almost always at the social level. He was not particularly articulate and writing was not one of his favorite things, in fact I did some editing for him, but I would say he was of at least average intelligence, if not higher in some areas that weren't identified. There are many areas of intelligence such as spatial, and I think that's why he did so well with crime scenes and SCUBA. He also had high athletic abilities in hand and eye coordination that were stunning.

Apologies if you feel like I negated you, didn't accept you or didn't hear you. What I wrote is sincerely from my heart and from my intellect, but it may not be what you were seeking and I hope you're not frustrated.

 

[Elbarado]

It has always cost me more than the rest to understand things, study etc ...

I work as a programmer, which you might think that I don't have a low IQ then, but the reality is that in my work most things are repetitive, and you don't need a normal IQ to do them. In fact, I end up doing the most repetitive things because of this, everything costs me a lot more than the others, I need much more help and it ends up affecting my work hard (I have lost jobs because of this).

I also have serious problems concentrating on something, sometimes they repeat something 20 times and I still forget after 5 minutes of it, this also affects my work very negatively.

It's really frustrating and depressing to feel this way and know it won't change (I've always been that way)

Does anyone else feel this way?

why dont take notes...?

 

[Finally_Free]

@Eren I completely get you, cause I have the same symptoms. I did a IQ test and the problem is not there. After more than 10 years researching and visiting docs, I found out I have a processing disorder. So, the information doesn't even reach my cognition most of the times. You can get better doing a specific therapy. But, before that, I'd advise you to see a Neuropsychologist. You should do a couple of vision and sound tests to assess your processing capacity. Good luck!!!
Also, you mentioned ADHD but said you're not agitated. There are 3 types of ADHD, one being a "not agitated" subtype. Just saying that so you don't discard this possibility right away

why dont take notes...?

At least in my case, notes don't resolve. They might help sometimes with memory. But working memory is something else. It's like RAM and HD.

 

[agentgeez]

I think the issue of intelligence is muddled up with too many factors to be able to talk decisively about it. The same people who have called me a genius have called me an idiot, and the same subjects I have excelled in I have failed at. For example, there have been moments in my old Maths class where there were problems posed to us where I've been the fastest to understand what to do and how to do it, and having to explain how I've done an answer to the guy who's the class 'whiz'. But I always got some of the lowest scores on most tests, and yet high scores on others with the same level of revision. As I said, there are a lot of factors I think are at play here; it seems the tests I do well on are the ones set just as we've finished learning a specific topic and the test is focused on that one topic. Since the information is fresh in my mind, it's easier to remember and doesn't require revision. But on the tests that cover every topic, I can't answer almost any of the questions because everything's left my mind. Although this might be because of a lack of revision, I think there are people who didn't revise much either but can still remember the topics. So you could say another factor is memory, which in itself might be affected by how much you're interested in something, how much of something else you're doing, how much you were listening at the time, or even if you have lots of problems and your brain is focused on dealing with them.

More than that, I think the way you live your life can affect your intelligence. History has always been the subject I was best at in school, and I think it's because I think about things in a way that fits History really well; I like to analyse things of my own accord, just in a casual fashion, not trying to sit down and force it. Actually, that reminds me of when Richard Feynman talked about how intelligence and potential in something is based off of how passionate you are about it. While that might sound like bull, I think there's truth to it; if you're naturally attracted to something, you'll be constantly developing the skills you need for it just in casual day-to-day life. If you're always thinking about why things around you work, then you're probably better at science. There may be accounts of people saying they're passionate about things and yet failing them, though, but even there, there's a lot of factors we might not be accounting for.

Honestly, intelligence is really frustrating for me because while I feel that it's easy to just look around you and say "dumb, smart" and so on, in the end we don't even know what's at play behind it. The only thing we can point to IQ tests, but I don't believe that certain ideas of success correlating with the score you get on an IQ test is proof of much, especially when the score you get can vary wildly with each test. I still believe I'm dumb because I constantly find myself making dumb mistakes, overlooking something, or acknowledging something out-of-place and yet not thinking about it until it's revealed (like in mystery novels and such), despite the fact that when I talk about certain issues with my friends they say that I 'think about things in depth'. It's frustrating to be inconsistent and to not have a definite idea of what intelligence is or how much of it you have. I've never considered school a good indicator of it and I don't know what would be; in the end I don't know what an intelligent person would look like or how consistently intelligent it's possible to be. This post probably sounds like a mess, but that goes to show how muddled I find the topic to be, if I'm not over-complicating things to avoid some kind of truth (although I don't believe I am).

 

[Eren]

@Eren I completely get you, cause I have the same symptoms. I did a IQ test and the problem is not there. After more than 10 years researching and visiting docs, I found out I have a processing disorder. So, the information doesn't even reach my cognition most of the times. You can get better doing a specific therapy. But, before that, I'd advise you to see a Neuropsychologist. You should do a couple of vision and sound tests to assess your processing capacity. Good luck!!!
Also, you mentioned ADHD but said you're not agitated. There are 3 types of ADHD, one being a "not agitated" subtype. Just saying that so you don't discard this possibility right away

At least in my case, notes don't resolve. They might help sometimes with memory. But working memory is something else. It's like RAM and HD.

Thanks for the help.

At least in my case, notes don't resolve. They might help sometimes with memory. But working memory is something else. It's like RAM and HD.

exactly, it's not like you forget to do something next week, it directly affects how you do things at the same time.

 

[AMorteVivente]

Let me give you a pair of examples of what having a low IQ could mean: I can't even play online videogames with other people because people always realize how dumb I am if I use voicechat, and this also means that I suck at most games. Some friends even stopped playing videogames with me because of this. That's the kind of stupidity level I have to deal with every day, and medications make it worse (and I can't stop taking them as I have SZ).

For people with a true low IQ such as me, you have no choice but to ask for help, and be lucky enough to receive it. What I am trying to say is: At that point, you don't have a LOW IQ, but a disability. Learning to live with it is hard, specially at first, but it's possible.

Look for a job that doesn't require you to use your intelligence... and tell social services the truth about your problems, don't be afraid to look like a complete idiot, they see people with those kind of problems every day. Those are my 2 cents anyways, you may be "fucked" or you may be not be depending of your personal situation, don't assume that you are fucked until you try to live and you realize that you truly are.

 

[Kain10th]

At least you can write well. I can barely write past a couple sentences without getting lost.