Is it possible to travel to a Middle Eastern or West Asia Country to be killed?

[Kay_Philosopher]

Hello everyone,

I am not thinking about it or anything as I am not suicidal.
This is just a hypothetical question which I will be using Afghanistan as an example country for this.
I am just wondering if is possible to go to a country like Afghanistan whose religion are predominantly Islamic, and street preach, say, Christianity to then get killed or mauled to death as an American citizen on some Work Visa or Tourist one? Obviously, not with intent to convert anyone in open as conversion is illegal which would resort in a far worse punishment for the citizens there. Or will the government repatriate you if they find out? Can Afghanistan laws incarcerate you or give you the death sentence if you are an American citizen? I am curious if one who is suicidal who are afraid of taking their own life would resort to this.

 

[noname223]

Kind of a weird question. Because it is only hypothetical i will answer it. The more pain and despair there is in one country the more likely stuff like that could be possible. I could imagine Somalia as an example. However people who do stuff like that cannot be trusted imo. They rather rape or torture you to death.

 

[zenn7]

Hello everyone,

I am not thinking about it or anything as I am not suicidal.
This is just a hypothetical question which I will be using Afghanistan as an example country for this.
I am just wondering if is possible to go to a country like Afghanistan whose religion are predominantly Islamic, and street preach, say, Christianity to then get killed or mauled to death as an American citizen on some Work Visa or Tourist one? Obviously, not with intent to convert anyone in open as conversion is illegal which would resort in a far worse punishment for the citizens there. Or will the government repatriate you if they find out? Can Afghanistan laws incarcerate you or give you the death sentence if you are an American citizen? I am curious if one who is suicidal who are afraid of taking their own life would resort to this.

Seems like a lot of work for iffy results. Yep, I'd look forward to starving in a rat infested cell for five years.

 

[Makko]

I think it would be easier to go to Australian desert, cover yourself in honey and wait until the giant ants and scorpions eat you up. That's a method too.

 

[RegretedFeeling]

My mom was in the army and went to Afghanistan, there was a woman who did nothing but her husband beat her, raped her and cheated on her.

the woman got lawyers and tried to have the man charged, on the day of court the judge ruled in favour of the woman but in fear of her being stoned to death the judge said she was to spend the rest of her days in jail.

im guessing if you did it you be beat to unconsciousness and sold to the highest bidder, you can keep a human alive a long time and torture them in ways you and I can't conceive for so so long that I would pick a better country,

like Russia!!

there you will get fucked super easy!!

 

[Symbiote]

I think it would be easier to go to Australian desert, cover yourself in honey and wait until the giant ants and scorpions eat you up. That's a method too.

Sounds like a 1000 Ways to Die episode...

Hello everyone,

I am not thinking about it or anything as I am not suicidal.
This is just a hypothetical question which I will be using Afghanistan as an example country for this.
I am just wondering if is possible to go to a country like Afghanistan whose religion are predominantly Islamic, and street preach, say, Christianity to then get killed or mauled to death as an American citizen on some Work Visa or Tourist one? Obviously, not with intent to convert anyone in open as conversion is illegal which would resort in a far worse punishment for the citizens there. Or will the government repatriate you if they find out? Can Afghanistan laws incarcerate you or give you the death sentence if you are an American citizen? I am curious if one who is suicidal who are afraid of taking their own life would resort to this.

There's this missionary who went to an island near India where lived a bunch of tribal inhabitants who were not fond of visitors. Shot him dead with an arrow after he landed his boat on their island. Getting to the island is pretty hard, but he was determined and paid a lot of money to rent a boat to get there.

The life and death of John Chau, the man who tried to convert his killers

The 26-year-old American adventure blogger was killed by an isolated tribe last year. His father blames ‘extreme’ Christianity

www.theguardian.com

 

[Symbiote]

You could also get killed in China pretty easily by crossing the road or calling Xi Jiping, Winnie the Pooh. They'll make sure you're dead if you get hit by a car, by backing up over your body.

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

Interesting answers, but what about just going strictly to Afghanistan? Is there any laws for American foreigners that are Christian and attempt to do street evangelism? Would they sentence you do death, repatriate you, or throw you in jail?

Kind of a weird question. Because it is only hypothetical i will answer it. The more pain and despair there is in one country the more likely stuff like that could be possible. I could imagine Somalia as an example. However people who do stuff like that cannot be trusted imo. They rather rape or torture you to death.

Wow, thanks for sharing. I have seen Afghanistan as one of the most countries with extreme persecution. What do you think would happen there compared to Somalia?

I think it would be easier to go to Australian desert, cover yourself in honey and wait until the giant ants and scorpions eat you up. That's a method too.

Forget that lol. That sounds terrible. I believe that is a form of scaphism.

 

[noname223]

Interesting answers, but what about just going strictly to Afghanistan? Is there any laws for American foreigners that are Christian and attempt to do street evangelism? Would they sentence you do death, repatriate you, or throw you in jail?

Wow, thanks for sharing. I have seen Afghanistan as one of the most countries with extreme persecution. What do you think would happen there compared to Somalia?

Forget that lol. That sounds terrible. I believe that is a form of scaphism.

Somalia is a failed state. As far as I know there is barely a government. Noone gives a shit about laws. This is way too risky my friend
Oh I misunderstood the question I thought you wanted to hire there someone who kills you.
There is the death sentence in the Philippines for drug dealing. I would really don't recommend that tbh.

 

[LetMeSleep4Ever]

It sounds like something a masochist would resort to. I mean so many things can go wrong, and they might not just kill you right away, or their method might be really painful. It's highly unlikely, but not impossible.

But there are people who do things without having to travel all the way to another country. Now and then I see someone mention suicide by cop. You get the cop to shoot you cause they think you might be dangerous. I also wrote in one of my post that there might be people who actually would go so far as end up in prison so they might get killed there. So if they don't get shot by the cops while being arrested, maybe they'll piss people off in prison and die there. In prison there are people who severely injure themselves. If they can do that to themselves, they can definitely provoke someone to do that to them.

 

[Snake of Eden]

This post is so wrong on many levels

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

Somalia is a failed state. As far as I know there is barely a government. Noone gives a shit about laws. This is way too risky my friend
Oh I misunderstood the question I thought you wanted to hire there someone who kills you.
There is the death sentence in the Philippines for drug dealing. I would really don't recommend that tbh.

Ah, okay. What about Afghanistan as it a an Islamic Theocratic government? If one is Christian and a tourist doing religious acts or attempting to proselytize, then what do you think? I don't know any cases of that happening in Afghanistan though. I haven't researched into it.

 

[boc]

Martyrdom as a CTB method. Yes it definitely would work, and would likely have a high efficacy rate. There is a long history of CTB in this method. A lot of monks in previous centuries would travel to the middle east to proselytise, as a martyr's death is a straight road to heaven. Now would this method work today? I think it would. You might have difficulty obtaining some visas to get into specific countries, but you could make it happen. As others have previously stated, this would likely be a horrible and painful death. Take a look at St. Sebastian, who was killed and martyred twice. One look at any of his paintings, and you'll know it wasn't a fun time.

Here's a recent example:

The Weekly | When ISIS Killed Cyclists on Their Journey Around the World (Published 2019)

Day 1: A couple began a bike trip around the world. Day 369: ISIS targeted them.

www.nytimes.com

Although they weren't seeking out CTB, but yes it would work.

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

Martyrdom as a CTB method. Yes it definitely would work, and would likely have a high efficacy rate. There is a long history of CTB in this method. A lot of monks in previous centuries would travel to the middle east to proselytise, as a martyr's death is a straight road to heaven. Now would this method work today? I think it would. You might have difficulty obtaining some visas to get into specific countries, but you could make it happen. As others have previously stated, this would likely be a horrible and painful death. Take a look at St. Sebastian, who was killed and martyred twice. One look at any of his paintings, and you'll know it wasn't a fun time.

Here's a recent example:

The Weekly | When ISIS Killed Cyclists on Their Journey Around the World (Published 2019)

Day 1: A couple began a bike trip around the world. Day 369: ISIS targeted them.

www.nytimes.com

Although they weren't seeking out CTB, but yes it would work.

Ah, I see. I know Afghanistan will be difficult without a Work Visa. I know those shouldn't be too difficult to attain. I don't care about how horrible or painful it is, but do you know the best effective method of being martyred in a country like Afghanistan without the risk of being repatriated? Prison is okay and torture is fine with me.

 

[boc]

I'm no expert on the subject now, but going to an area controlled my muslim extremists (Boko Haram, or ISIS) and trying to convert people to Christianity seems like a pretty sure way to get it sorted. I think your best way to ensure you don't get repatriated is to go out to countryside first, where the extremists are clearly in control of the local area, then start trying to convert people. You could also get rid of all your ID and passport before starting. I think your risk of torture for a long time before death is high, you could also be used as ransom.

I think some parts of Pakistan would be easier to get into than Afghanistan. There are tribal governed regions in the western parts. Also many African countries have parts that are controlled, but other parts are not. It wouldn't raise an eyebrow to get tourist visa to these locations. That would be my recommendation. Keep us posted if that's your decision, I would be interested to hear your own research and how things go.

 

[motel rooms]

I am not thinking about it or anything as I am not suicidal. This is just a hypothetical question

I don't care about how horrible or painful it is, but do you know the best effective method of being martyred in a country like Afghanistan without the risk of being repatriated? Prison is okay and torture is fine with me.

 

[All Things Must Pass]

I am not thinking about it or anything as I am not suicidal.

Then why are you here?

Prison is okay and torture is fine with me.

Sure thing bro.

 

[Makko]

If you really want to actually get killed like that, dress like a muslim, go to Jerusalem whip out a fake bomb on the street and shout "Allah Akbar!". You'll quickly and reliably get shot dead. Israeli civilians are high-strung and heavily armed.

 

[motel rooms]

If you really want to actually get killed like that, dress like a muslim, go to Jerusalem whip out a fake bomb on the street and shout "Allah Akbar!". You'll quickly and reliably get shot dead. Israeli civilians are high-strung and heavily armed.

But he wants to be imprisoned & tortured...

 

[Makko]

But he wants to be imprisoned & tortured...

This silly forum is full of masochist perverts

 

[motel rooms]

This silly forum is full of masochist perverts

 

[LifeQuitter2018]

You could also get killed in China pretty easily by crossing the road or calling Xi Jiping, Winnie the Pooh. They'll make sure you're dead if you get hit by a car, by backing up over your body.

That or go to North Korea and insult Kim Jong Un or the Communist Party.

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

I'm no expert on the subject now, but going to an area controlled my muslim extremists (Boko Haram, or ISIS) and trying to convert people to Christianity seems like a pretty sure way to get it sorted. I think your best way to ensure you don't get repatriated is to go out to countryside first, where the extremists are clearly in control of the local area, then start trying to convert people. You could also get rid of all your ID and passport before starting. I think your risk of torture for a long time before death is high, you could also be used as ransom.

I think some parts of Pakistan would be easier to get into than Afghanistan. There are tribal governed regions in the western parts. Also many African countries have parts that are controlled, but other parts are not. It wouldn't raise an eyebrow to get tourist visa to these locations. That would be my recommendation. Keep us posted if that's your decision, I would be interested to hear your own research and how things go.

Interesting. I would love to keep in touch with how the process goes. Also, what do you think of Northern Nigeria where Boko Haram is? Could that also work? The controlled parts would be difficult. It seems Afghanistan would be the most suitable place to effectively work.

That or go to North Korea and insult Kim Jong Un or the Communist Party.

They will work one to death. Plus, it is near impossible to get in without being some celeb or having the right qualifications.

 

[motel rooms]

 

[Kay_Philosopher]

I'm no expert on the subject now, but going to an area controlled my muslim extremists (Boko Haram, or ISIS) and trying to convert people to Christianity seems like a pretty sure way to get it sorted. I think your best way to ensure you don't get repatriated is to go out to countryside first, where the extremists are clearly in control of the local area, then start trying to convert people. You could also get rid of all your ID and passport before starting. I think your risk of torture for a long time before death is high, you could also be used as ransom.

I think some parts of Pakistan would be easier to get into than Afghanistan. There are tribal governed regions in the western parts. Also many African countries have parts that are controlled, but other parts are not. It wouldn't raise an eyebrow to get tourist visa to these locations. That would be my recommendation. Keep us posted if that's your decision, I would be interested to hear your own research and how things go.

Hey, do you mind if I dm you?

 

[boc]

Hey, do you mind if I dm you?

Sure man. Any time.

 

[Jumping_realms]

Possibly, but you could also be held and tortured for years or something and let go instead of even dying. lol

 

[justpeachy]

Sounds like a 1000 Ways to Die episode...


There's this missionary who went to an island near India where lived a bunch of tribal inhabitants who were not fond of visitors. Shot him dead with an arrow after he landed his boat on their island. Getting to the island is pretty hard, but he was determined and paid a lot of money to rent a boat to get there.

The life and death of John Chau, the man who tried to convert his killers

The 26-year-old American adventure blogger was killed by an isolated tribe last year. His father blames ‘extreme’ Christianity

www.theguardian.com

Yeah that guy was an idiot. He knew ahead of time that he was not welcome, he was risking these people's entire population with exposure to illnesses and bacteria they have no immunity against all to try to convert them to his fucking religion? How much more self centered could you really get? Ugh. Not mad towards you, I just hate the story and even more when people say those ppl did something wrong. They protected themselves. They have no outside communication and some random dude just showed up at their home acting a fool. What exactly did he expect to happen? He was from where I used to live and I can tell you they nobody but the most major bible thumpers felt one ounce of pity for that guy. He put himself in that situation and risked making an entire population extinct for his own selfish motives all under the disguise of "love muh god, he's better than yours."

 

[Foreversad]

It does not make much sence ..i mean ..(!?)

 

[brutalus]

it reminds me of the technique called: suicide by cop. u threaten the police with a fake gun and get sprayed with bullets. free suicide. its seriously in the list of my possibly methods. i just want to vary it a little. i would attack a group of policemen with a machete, kill some if possible and then die by their guns. its a fantasy hehe :D