drwt
Member
- Dec 1, 2020
- 59
- Join the military and volunteer to do every risky job
- Become a superhero and go out fighting crime
- Donate your heart to someone who needs it and an hero for them to get it
- Play russian roulette
- Take way too many drugs
- Find a psychopath online who'll kill you
- Climb a high mountain or cross a desert without preperation
or:
- Suffer through life, dedicate it to helping people, make others happy, die one day
That would definitely make you a hero
- Become a superhero and go out fighting crime
- Donate your heart to someone who needs it and an hero for them to get it
- Play russian roulette
- Take way too many drugs
- Find a psychopath online who'll kill you
- Climb a high mountain or cross a desert without preperation
or:
- Suffer through life, dedicate it to helping people, make others happy, die one day
That would definitely make you a hero
Gnip
Bill the Cat
- Oct 10, 2020
- 623
Dying in a verifiably "heroic" way is problematic, but dying in a way which is accidental is within easy access of all of us.
A car or motorcycle accident can always be ascribed to falling asleep when there are no drugs or alcohol in the system (and especially if there is an excess of caffeine, particularly if there is a partially or mostly empty container of Vivarin, Nodoz and/or 5-hour Energy bottles in the vehicle).
When I was a child, the first serious motorcycle accident I ever saw the aftermath of was when coming home from a family Fourth of July fireworks display outing, when we were among the first on the scene. My parents were going to have us wait in the car, then decided, "No, it'll teach the kids a lesson in how dangerous motorcycling can be!" (We were just learning how to operate a new Honda 50 trail minibike.)
Turns out the guy riding the motorcycle had fallen asleep while driving it, something we would not have believed possible, resulting in a gruesomely gory severe leg fracture which later was resulting in "S" shaped leg casts.
Years after that, as a hospital employee covering all departments, I encountered a number of near fatalities and post admission fatalities which occurred because the vehicle operator had fallen asleep.
None of my psychiatrists or other sleep medicine specialists have ever restricted my access to sleep medication prescriptions in any way because of these stories and the fact that accidents like Chernobyl and Exxon Valdez were caused by sleep deprivation. The potential for claiming that Ambien, Restoril or Lunesta is somehow more dangerous than sleep deprivation simply does not exist. (These people are all scientists who have also known people that were killed because of sleep deprivation. They also acknowledge that if Chernobyl had been located on a seacoast instead of a landlocked location, the human race would not exist today.)
Getting accidentally killed without a motor vehicle or bicycle is also simple and easy enough with access to alcohol. Just get yourself plastered and jump in front of a moving vehicle, off a cliff or bridge. The autopsy will prove that you were drunk, therefore a conclusion of accident rather than suicide will likely be the ruling.
A car or motorcycle accident can always be ascribed to falling asleep when there are no drugs or alcohol in the system (and especially if there is an excess of caffeine, particularly if there is a partially or mostly empty container of Vivarin, Nodoz and/or 5-hour Energy bottles in the vehicle).
When I was a child, the first serious motorcycle accident I ever saw the aftermath of was when coming home from a family Fourth of July fireworks display outing, when we were among the first on the scene. My parents were going to have us wait in the car, then decided, "No, it'll teach the kids a lesson in how dangerous motorcycling can be!" (We were just learning how to operate a new Honda 50 trail minibike.)
Turns out the guy riding the motorcycle had fallen asleep while driving it, something we would not have believed possible, resulting in a gruesomely gory severe leg fracture which later was resulting in "S" shaped leg casts.
Years after that, as a hospital employee covering all departments, I encountered a number of near fatalities and post admission fatalities which occurred because the vehicle operator had fallen asleep.
None of my psychiatrists or other sleep medicine specialists have ever restricted my access to sleep medication prescriptions in any way because of these stories and the fact that accidents like Chernobyl and Exxon Valdez were caused by sleep deprivation. The potential for claiming that Ambien, Restoril or Lunesta is somehow more dangerous than sleep deprivation simply does not exist. (These people are all scientists who have also known people that were killed because of sleep deprivation. They also acknowledge that if Chernobyl had been located on a seacoast instead of a landlocked location, the human race would not exist today.)
Getting accidentally killed without a motor vehicle or bicycle is also simple and easy enough with access to alcohol. Just get yourself plastered and jump in front of a moving vehicle, off a cliff or bridge. The autopsy will prove that you were drunk, therefore a conclusion of accident rather than suicide will likely be the ruling.
Damn. I could never do it. Too coward. Gotta admit you have a point with the accident part but, wouldn't you ruin your "killer's" life?
mirko
ah
- Nov 19, 2020
- 233
Do you consider heroic getting euthanized so your organ can be donated to someone that really needs them? Because I wouldn't think twice doing it.
Gnip
Bill the Cat
- Oct 10, 2020
- 623
Presumptuous to assume most innocent people have that level of guilty conscience. (Members of Sanctioned Suicide tend to operate on a much higher level than the average individual. We're excessively, inappropriately responsible, often groomed by psychopathic/sociopathic adults in our upbringings.)
Give it a little time. The abomination of driverless computer programmed vehicles is ascendant.
In point of fact, shit happens. Around 2003, a friend of my sister's was driving a bunch of friends of hers, and collided with one of a couple of idiot teenage boys who were drag racing towards them. She was badly injured (with some of her passengers), but recovered and went on with her life. There was never any question that the only criminals in that episode were the ones who died. (The next day, it was the top news story in northern New England.)
A few innocent "killers" with a predisposition to clinical anxiety might be traumatized for life, but if not substance impaired or otherwise breaking the law, then the "killer" is the victim, not the deceased self intoxicated criminal.
One Christmas season, a little old lady in front of me was killed when she was slammed down by a motorist on a busy downtown main street. She didn't bother to look, she just stepped right in front of a vehicle, and was not on a crosswalk. I have no idea how she managed to live that long being that reckless and stupid, but she did not deserve to belong in that driver's daily thoughts afterward.
Now, I am NOT an organ donor, because I don't want to risk some worthless asshole like Bob Casey, Sr., Darth Cheney or Jeff Bezos getting to live by obtaining my organs.
My preference is to either hop in a volcano or the molten steel of a furnace the way Schwarzenegger's Terminator is lowered into one at the end of Judgement Day, so that no fucking pathologist or any worms or other organisms can feed on or otherwise benefit from my remains. (The world shit on me. This would be payback.)
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