Help with CO method

[lostmeaning]

Not my preferred method but it's one of my top options that seem doable. I really need to go and don't know how I can wait until I can do my preferred method. Would be so much easier but I don't think I can even function enough to do well at work for many months more and I don't want to mess up my life before cbt and suffer more. Bought stuff for it months ago but couldn't get the charcoal to light and I was in my car which doesn't seem doable considering the smoke and people seeing in and around me. And seemed like I would just end up starting a fire so I mostly ended up just driving around looking for a good private spot I did not find wishing I could be dead.

I have 2 small portable charcoal grills (one is 206 sq ft and other is smaller), 24 lbs Kingsford match light instant charcoal briquets, matches, a few large containers of water in case. I have a car, my own apartment.

1. I have no idea where I could realistically go through with it. Car? Seems like it would be too small a space and start a fire and no privacy, fail. Apartment? Not trying to have it go into the neighbors, or set off the fire alarm. There's 2 alarms so might be a co alarm too. So a lot that would fail there too.

2. Will this charcoal work? It seems like this isn't the best stuff from what I've read.

3. Are the grills enough to make enough CO to work? How long will it take?

Also if I failed and was found out a lot is at stake because that means I will no longer be able to do my preferred method.

 

[befree]

You can find a proven guide in this thread:

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

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Don´t use briquets, but a high quality lump coal. Many people have done it in the trunk of the car. You have to seal the car properly from the inside.
Don´t forget the ventilation/air conditioning and the area around the pedals. Cover the floor with baking trays. I would use 1 or 2 Weber® kettle grills.
I have posted a few examples and further info here:

Questions about carbon monoxide

I'm new to the forums account wise (just made the account a few days ago), but I've been a lurker for around a month and a half ~2months now. I was scared about making an account so that I don't get found out, since some people have access to my emails and I wasn't sure they'd notice I made an...

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[lostmeaning]

You can find a proven guide in this thread:

Charcoal method advice

Hi, I somehow came across this site after some furious google searching over the weekend. After trying and failing other methods over the past month I came across back to the idea of carbon monoxide and decided to dig further into charcoal burning, of which there are plenty discussions on this...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Don´t use briquets, but a high quality lump coal. Many people have done it in the trunk of the car. You have to seal the car properly from the inside.
Don´t forget the ventilation/air conditioning and the area around the pedals. Cover the floor with baking trays. I would use 1 or 2 Weber® kettle grills.
I have posted a few examples and further info here:

Questions about carbon monoxide

I'm new to the forums account wise (just made the account a few days ago), but I've been a lurker for around a month and a half ~2months now. I was scared about making an account so that I don't get found out, since some people have access to my emails and I wasn't sure they'd notice I made an...

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Thanks for the info. The biggest issue it still seems like I have preventing me from doing it is where to do it that I can light it outside and wait for smoke/fire to die down and then put it in my trunk. Also don't know where I could do it that I won't be found or watched. The only possible place I can think of is a campground if there's one not surrounded by people and then it would have to be close by since I will only have the weekend before work. Even then I'd still look weird sitting in my car if someone saw me or if I put coverings on my car that alone is an obvious sign someone's inside. And I have never used one before and you said it has to be burned evenly or something along those lines, which I can see me not doing it right considering I still have to learn how to just light it still.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

You can light the charcoal with pretty much whatever you want to use - tightly rolled paper, kindling wood, gas torch, etc. Frankly, I don't even know why you couldn't utilize charcoal starting fluid on some quality lump charcoal just to get them started, since you're going to be waiting on them to burn off all the impurities anyway. I wouldn't soak the hell out of them or anything, though. You're going to wait on the charcoal, anyway, to burn off all its impurities before placing it wherever you plan on placing them. When the charcoal is burning/glowing white hot, and is emitting no smoke, or hardly any smoke at all, that is the time when CO emissions are at their highest.

You need to be very careful that you use enough charcoal to produce enough CO in whatever volume of space you plan to occupy. There are bound to be loses from leakage, so your generation of CO needs to account for that. The higher you can get the CO level, the more peaceful, and quick, your transition will be. I'll be measuring the level I generate with a meter.

If you don't get levels high enough, you can suffer severe brain damage, but not die. This "new" hell may be worse than whatever you're living now.

For the reasons you state about your car and apartment, that is exactly why so many utilize tent enclosures. I'm lucky because I plan on setting up my tent in my garage where I have no worries about being interrupted.

 

[befree]

And I have never used one before and you said it has to be burned evenly or something along those lines, which I can see me not doing it right considering I still have to learn how to just light it still.

If you've never used a BBQ, you should do it 2-3x to get a feel for how it works before you plan to CTB.

 

[Meditation guide]

For the reasons you state about your car and apartment, that is exactly why so many utilize tent enclosures. I'm lucky because I plan on setting up my tent in my garage where I have no worries about being interrupted.

I see lots of people talking about using a tent with a charcoal grill. It seems like a tent would suffocate people if it was so air tight that gas wouldn't go through it. Are tents made so filling it with CO it wouldn't seep through the tent material?

 

[Praestat_Mori]

I see lots of people talking about using a tent with a charcoal grill. It seems like a tent would suffocate people if it was so air tight that gas wouldn't go through it. Are tents made so filling it with CO it wouldn't seep through the tent material?

The CO will seep slowly through the tent material and through other not completely airtight places like zippers and so. But the process is slow and it is possible to keep up a lethal concentration of CO for long enough inside.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

I see lots of people talking about using a tent with a charcoal grill. It seems like a tent would suffocate people if it was so air tight that gas wouldn't go through it. Are tents made so filling it with CO it wouldn't seep through the tent material?

Depends on where you plan on placing the tent. In your house/apartment - yeah that could be an issue. No doubt some CO is going to escape and make it's way into other apartments, or if it's a house, it will linger inside for some amount of time. I don't expect to be found for at least 3 days, so I think any residual CO should pretty much be dissipated by that time so as not to harm anyone else. Plus, in my (snail mail) letter to the police, I will be indicating to them how I CTB and to take precautions, and I'll also have a sign of some sort up plainly visible when they open up my garage door.

It seems like a tent would suffocate people if it was so air tight that gas wouldn't go through it

This statement here I'm a bit confused about. If the CO level reached inside the tent from the charcoals inside the tent is high enough, death shouldn't take more than 10, 20 minutes max. You're going to "suffocate" from the CO. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking here.

 

[Gonnerr]

If you do it in your car , you have to find a place where nobody will find you for a few hours , even remote place , you never know when people will show up.

You can always do a test with just 1 briquettes in your apartment with windows closed , it won't kill you and if you set the alarm , prepare a burned toast to show people.

I have no alarm in my apartment and i did let burn 2 briquettes all night windows closed and no alarm went off in the building.

 

[Meditation guide]

If you do it in your car , you have to find a place where nobody will find you for a few hours , even remote place , you never know when people will show up.

You can always do a test with just 1 briquettes in your apartment with windows closed , it won't kill you and if you set the alarm , prepare a burned toast to show people.

I have no alarm in my apartment and i did let burn 2 briquettes all night windows closed and no alarm went off in the building.

those CO alarms require a lot of CO before they go off, I was watching videos of how they work. They are not very sensitive at all.

Depends on where you plan on placing the tent. In your house/apartment - yeah that could be an issue. No doubt some CO is going to escape and make it's way into other apartments, or if it's a house, it will linger inside for some amount of time. I don't expect to be found for at least 3 days, so I think any residual CO should pretty much be dissipated by that time so as not to harm anyone else. Plus, in my (snail mail) letter to the police, I will be indicating to them how I CTB and to take precautions, and I'll also have a sign of some sort up plainly visible when they open up my garage door.


This statement here I'm a bit confused about. If the CO level reached inside the tent from the charcoals inside the tent is high enough, death shouldn't take more than 10, 20 minutes max. You're going to "suffocate" from the CO. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking here.

I am also wondering about the temperature of being inside a tent with a smoldering barbecue. It seems as if it would get very hot in the tent. Usually accidental CO deaths occur when it's cold outside and people use a barbecue grill inside a van or tent to keep warm.
If you are in the winter that might work better than summer?

Depends on where you plan on placing the tent. In your house/apartment - yeah that could be an issue. No doubt some CO is going to escape and make it's way into other apartments, or if it's a house, it will linger inside for some amount of time. I don't expect to be found for at least 3 days, so I think any residual CO should pretty much be dissipated by that time so as not to harm anyone else. Plus, in my (snail mail) letter to the police, I will be indicating to them how I CTB and to take precautions, and I'll also have a sign of some sort up plainly visible when they open up my garage door.


This statement here I'm a bit confused about. If the CO level reached inside the tent from the charcoals inside the tent is high enough, death shouldn't take more than 10, 20 minutes max. You're going to "suffocate" from the CO. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking here.

I was thinking that if a tent material holds in CO well, then it would be almost airtight, meaning using a tent normally for camping would not allow oxygen in if you are sleeping in one. It seems like a permeable material would let the CO seep through it too much.