Everybody has its own reasons for thinking about CBT, but as for me, who suffers from a uncurable cruel disease, i get triggered, angry, and especially sad, when someone wants to end his life, because of a relationship and stuff. That doesnt mean, that i dont empathize with that person or i want to judge them and stuff...
It just makes me sad and i want the person to rethink everything and want to strengthen them,because i want them to overcome these cruel feelings and thoughts to hopefully get a better life.
I was born a fighter, although i had to learn it. I have never wanted somebody to succeed over me by their actions and never wanted to give the pleasant to give in.
But i know how it hurts.
I would love that everybody who has this emotional pain to overcome it and have faith in themselves.
I know time wont cure any emotional wounds, we are the one to deal with em by getting stronger, maybe getting wiser, growing more as the wonderful person we are.
A close friend tried to ctb back in the days, cause of rejections, feeled loneliness and stuff. She got saved. Luckily with no permanent damage. It was a long way, but now she developed into even greater person as she was before. She is satisfied with her life and happy that she was saved that day.
I would love to give everybody who wants to ctb my illness, then both sides can be happy. Sadly that wont work. For me i want to live so badly like it was 1,5 years ago without this suffering and it just makes me sad from the bottom of my heart when somebody wants to end his life although they are physically healthy and could possible change things and get happier.
We share similar feelings as Im also dying and do not want to. Except now im also dealing with shear loneliness on top of the illness.. i have every reason to ctb but still my fear of ctb keeps me suffering. Dealing with both, if I could choose only one, I'd choose alone and physically healthy over ctb.
i never once thought of ctb until i got sick and lost everything and everyone. I wish no one had to think of ctb ever. It's cruel
So your reason to ctb is valid. Just yours. Just incurable physical illness.
The rest of the comment is like a pro-life script. I got a contact high from it.
For those of us who are forced to ctb from physical illness, those who loved life, (the lucky ones I guess, not lucky now) people who want to live but won't, it's natural to wish that others who are not dying, could have the strength to overcome their mental torture and own the power to love themself enough to keep going. Is it pro life? Not always, for me it's pro compassion, pro solitude, pro independence and anti torture bcuz it's torture to think about ctb 24:/7 especially when those thoughts do not bring comfort but bring shear terror.
I relate to @Elbarado's sentiment, we wish we could give some of our will to live to many here but if we express this heart felt sentiment with the wrong words, we will be viewed as pro life and risk being banned.
@woxihuanni In context of goodbye threads, I view saying "good luck" as encouragement as you might see "please take time to reconsider" as prolife bullying. (Although i realize the caps made it seem demanding) even
@x-Ace-x said he wished no one had to choose the path he chose (ctb)
Should all goodbye threads be like Shawn's ? Emotionless good lucks? Why is it not ok to hope someone will reconsider or ask if there's any hope for them to cling to?
last week someone posted that they're SO is going to be devastated and another member said, "why would you even ctb if you have someone who loves you, I would never ctb if I had that." Why was that not torn apart as invalidating?
I saw
@x-Ace-x telling many that if they reconsider it's ok.
Some people write from their heart esp in goodbye threads. It's human nature to want people to not have to die.
@Elbarado I get what you feel, I would trade places with anyone not dying, however, we (you and I and others terminally ill) have to take into consideration that those who may have lived to 100 but hate life, and don't have the strength to fight, feel ctb is the only way. It's heart breaking but our personal feelings on the matter need to be filtered to a degree to not flow too far into prolife territory.
A gentle reminder that This particular thread is titled "ctb due to loneliness or breakups", it was not titled "ctb due to lifelong depression, MH issues, abuse, debt, anxiety, anhedonia, bpd, autism, abandonment, followed by loneliness and breakups". (This is not meant in a condescending way to invalidate that most are suffering from many issues not just one thing. I just meant in considering a reply)
This site also promotes offering advice, comfort, help, compassion etc and for ctb to be a last resort. Helping to save a life is as important as the right to end it. Pro Choice
Is it wrong to wish people could find strength to live instead of ctb?