Can you compare women soccer with men soccer?

[noname223]

It is European championchip in women soccer. My friends watch it, I don't watch it and we had a debate how one can compare it.

In media there were many reports the men U15 of Luzern a city in Switzerland won a test Match against the Swiss women national Team 7:1. My friends said this does not prove anything and that the coverage is unfair. They don't know that much about soccer though


I see a couple of advantages in women soccer.
Less drama, the players are fairer and they don't behave like actors after fouls
Less homophobia
Less corruption, it is more about sports and less about money

However, when we look at the pace, the techniques men soccer simply is better. Not all of that stems from biologically. Women could also Do the same tricks and have the same shooting techniques. But there are less Investments in women soccer. Money makes a diffefence.
If society cared more women soccer could become way better. And I think there are signs that women soccer makes faster progress than men soccer.

Personally, I almost only watch men champions league soccer in finales. And I could imagine here on the highest levels physics plays a bigger role to push the limits. I cannot compare men soccer on lower levels with women soccer.

In general I am also not a soccer expert but I certainly know more about soccer than my friends.

I think they are right not a few men Look down at women soccer. I am pretty sure I could never be better than any women you can watch on TV. Also if I trained without end from my childhood on. Some men think they are superior just because male professional soccer teams probably can beat female teams on similar levels. But it does not say much about the skills of an average male Player.

 

[WhatCouldHaveBeen32]

The funding is probably bad and there is a lot of hate towards it from dumb idiots for sure.

I personally think sports and their fans are usually too toxic or backwards thinking to have any kind of benefit going into; especially when you are a woman. Obviously , it doesn't and shouldn't stop you from pursuing it but you are still going to face numerous hurdles and bullshit.

Even as a man, if you are not the cookie cutter type man which the industry demands and some things about the activity fundamentally piss you off; you are unlikely to want to do sport or soccer as a profession even if you have the capability for it.

And again as previously stated, there won't be any significant funding in the current society. We should focus on getting women to be treated like normal people and then we'll be able to address these issues better.

 

[Dejected 55]

You can compare anything to anything. Why compare women's soccer to men's soccer? Why not compare men's soccer to men's target shooting? The men with rifles in target shooting would literally kill the men's soccer team... no competition!

The point of the humor there is... why compare?

There are valid reasons sometimes... like when women aren't paid proportionally as much in their sports as men are in theirs... especially if you consider the worst men's teams that aren't winning anything getting paid more than the best women's teams who are winning. That's a fair question to ask why a winning team isn't more valuable in their similar sport than a losing team in another?

And what does it even mean if a men's soccer team beats a women's team? What would it mean if the women's team beat the men's team?

Back when the USA decided to switch to professional basketball players for the olympics instead if using college players since they were not winning anymore reliably... in one of the first outings a group of college all-start beat the pants over that first "Dream Team." Of course, the Dream Team beat the crap out of them in a rematch and everyone else they played that year... but if you want to pin it all on one game. that first match the pro players were embarrassed by the college kids.

 

[Forever Sleep]

I don't know much about football. It doesn't really interest me. Although, I believe the UK women's football team is performing better than the men's in respect of their individual league tables. Would the men beat the women in a match? Maybe. Who knows?

I'd imagine some of it might well be down to strength and stamina though. I imagine men and women are genetically predisposed to be able to be better in certain areas. So- while a competition between the sexes is interesting, I'm also not too sure that it's all together fair. Which touches on the trans debate I suppose. If it can be proved that some trans women retain their biological male advantage, is it all that fair to let them compete against cis women?

Take a hypothetical scenario. Would we pit a fully grown silverback gorilla against a man in weight lifting? They are capable of lifting 800kg. The world record for a human is 501kg. The gorilla could lift the weight and the weight lifter combined. Lol. We wouldn't even consider it a fair match because the gorilla is simply capable of being stronger. Similarly, with all the training, correct diet, exercise in the world, are there some things some people will simply never physically be able to achieve? I don't know but, I inagine so. In a lot of events that rely on strength, men beat women. I think therefore, they need to be judged on their own merits or in a serious competition, competing against their own gender.

As to who you prefer to watch. I expect that's down to personal preference. I expect men and women may enjoy watching the opposite or same gender play sports because they think they're hot too. Lol.

What's the argument here though? Which is 'better'? Do they deserve more money then? It reminds me of 'Battle of the Sexes'. The 2017 film that examined women's struggles to be recognised in tennis- especially financially.

To put it to you in terms of finances. How should athletes be paid? Equally or, by how much money they generate? Their popularity? I imagine in that case, men would take the edge although, maybe not always by that much.

It's not to call you out for being sexist. I don't believe you are. It's just that sport is wrapped up in money and equality issues- just like everything else. Comparison between the sexes and deciding one is better than the other invaribly must lead to questions on who deserves more money/ funding to begin with.

I don't watch much sport but I suppose I'd be more likely to watch men compete. I suppose generally because they are stronger, and have more power to do things. Depends on the sport though really. For Gymnastics, men and women look equally amazing to me.