A Question on Signing up With Your IP Address ( being mandatory)

[Smart No More]

Could anyone shed some light on why it's necessary to sign up using your real IP address?

 

[Life_and_Death]

not even an ounce of knowledge purely a guess and probably not the only reason if i am right but my guess: to help keep annoying people away

 

[Smart No More]

not even an ounce of knowledge purely a guess and probably not the only reason if i am right but my guess: to help keep annoying people away

So, for example, those that get banned can't return?

That would make sense.

Would you imagine that's the sole reason?

 

[Life_and_Death]

So, for example, those that get banned can't return?

That would make sense.

Would you imagine that's the sole reason?

exactly that. as for the sole reason, i cant think of another reason but theres probably one

 

[castler]

But I thought our Ip address got recycled each time we login to the web - I think mine does and I don't use proxies. I can't imagine nowadays it would stay the same Ip address for long.

 

[Life_and_Death]

But I thought our Ip address got recycled each time we login to the web - I think mine does and I don't use proxies. I can't imagine nowadays it would stay the same Ip address for long.

like i said

not even an ounce of knowledge purely a guess

but im not the only one saying it

Do Webmasters of Forums Keep a Record of Your IP Address?

www.thestudentroom.co.uk

They mainly do it to detect duplicate accounts and/or put blocks in place if a poster severely and repeatedly breaks the forum rules.

 

[Smart No More]

But I thought our Ip address got recycled each time we login to the web - I think mine does and I don't use proxies. I can't imagine nowadays it would stay the same Ip address for long.

You must be mistaken. IP's don't usually get changed. You can have the same IP address for many years.

You can use a vpn which will change your ip and there are ip spoofing methods but I'm not aware of anyone having an IP that changes with each connection natively.

 

[castler]

No I'm clearly not mistaken

Whenever you connect to a different Wi-Fi network, your public IP will become that network's IP. For example, connecting your laptop or smartphone to a public hot spot at a restaurant or library will give you a different IP address than connecting at home.

 

[wetrus]

You must be mistaken. IP's don't usually get changed. You can have the same IP address for many years.

Yoy can use a vpn which will change your ip and there are ip spoofing methods but I'm not aware of anyone having an IP that changes with each connection natively.

Some ISPS have rotating IPs, I believe its not common on North America/Europe, but some do, if you reset the router the ip will just change

 

[Smart No More]

No I'm clearly not mistaken

Whenever you connect to a different Wi-Fi network, your public IP will become that network's IP. For example, connecting your laptop or smartphone to a public hot spot at a restaurant or library will give you a different IP address than connecting at home.

Ah well if you're using different networks then your IP will be that of the network. I kind of assumed that went without saying. Your connection at home or on your phone will have the same IP though in most cases. There are exceptions but they're few and far between when it comes to home networks or mobile devices. What you're describing with using public wifi may be a way around signing up with new accounts after being banned but if you were to return home and use your home network without a vpn you'd most likely be flagged if you'd used that network previous to your ban.

Some ISPS have rotating IPs, I believe its not common on North America/Europe, but some do, if you reset the router the ip will just change

Yeah, true. Its not very common though. I guess it depends where you live but the infrequency of those cases holds true enough to support the the use of IP's to identify people and their addresses.

 

[Symbiote]

Most ISPs these days use Dynamic IP addressing via DHCP. You as a customer get an IP lease that lasts for a specific time, and then it renews for another IP address on that subnet. So if you're 199.124.1.11 for a week, after renewal you'll be 199.124.1.12 and so on. That's only if you don't configure your router and it's preconfig by your provider. If you have configured you can set your IP as static meaning you're on that same IP address for years until you change it. IP addresses is defaulted on registration, I don't use it as an indicator of a previous poster because IP addresses can change, however I will look at routing tables and the ASN backbone on which it came to figure out clues if it's a banned user trying to come back in.

 

[Life_and_Death]

to figure out clues if it's a banned user trying to come back in.

so a lot more complicated then what i said. but it makes sense why that seemed like the reason while not completely making sense

 

[Smart No More]

Most ISPs these days use Dynamic IP addressing via DHCP. You as a customer get an IP lease that lasts for a specific time, and then it renews for another IP address on that subnet. So if you're 199.124.1.11 for a week, after renewal you'll be 199.124.1.12 and so on. That's only if you don't configure your router and it's preconfig by your provider. If you have configured you can set your IP as static meaning you're on that same IP address for years until you change it. IP addresses is defaulted on registration, I don't use it as an indicator of a previous poster because IP addresses can change, however I will look at routing tables and the ASN backbone on which it came to figure out clues if it's a banned user trying to come back in.

Well that's a surprise, I must say as every ISP I've been with has set my router to static IP by default. For many years. Guess things change.


So, while you're here could you shed some light on the reason it's necessary to sign up with our IP addresses?

 

[castler]

Well that's a surprise, I must say as every ISP I've been with has set my router to static IP by default. For many years. Guess things change.


So, while you're here could you shed some light on the reason it's necessary to sign up with our IP addresses?

Cuz if u don't use a IP address - u have no internet.

 

[Smart No More]

Cuz if u don't use a IP address - u have no internet.

I'm not a fucking idiot. Maybe you're joking, I dunno. If you're serious a great example of a backfire.

There a specified rule that you sign up with your genuine IP not using a vpn etc. I mean, you must know this, you're a member. If it were somwthing done by default there'd bw no specified rule around it.

 

[castler]

And they'll catch u like a ball in a glove if u try signing up with a proxy. Hehe.

Maybe its to weed out potential law enforcement from hiding behind proxy, since their the main users we're trying to avoid interacting with on here. That's the only thing I can come up with. Tho there's still some loop holes behind that theory.

 

[VirtualSnow]

And they'll catch u like a ball in a glove if u try signing up with a proxy. Hehe.

People really underestimate the amount of proxies out there, and perhaps you could register from a proxy and input an IP from a banned country, not sure since I haven't tried.

 

[Dead Ghost]

I have dynamic IP, if I wanted a fixed IP I would have to pay a monthly fee to use it. Although lately I'm logging in with TOR (not now) because I have access problems (this week especially), I don't know if that's good for my access log in SaSu.
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Jo tinc IP dinàmica, si volgués una IP fixe hauria de pagar un quota mensual per ferla servir. Tot i que últimament estic entrant amb el TOR (ara no) perquè tinc problemes d'accés (aquesta setmana sobretot). No se pas si això és un inconvenient per a mi de cara al registre d'accesos a SaSu.

 

[chocolatebar]

It's a measure often done in order to make it harder for people to create multiple accounts and try to control the forum or spam it. Some people really want to enforce their opinions or agenda and will maintain many active accounts withdifferent personalities and discuss with themselves. Yes, people are weird.

the bad thing about requiring a non proxy ip is that it makes the users more traceable.

 

[Nights]

So that no one can create a lot of accounts throught automated tools and then corrupt this forum, or create a alternative account if he's banned (for example a pro-lifer who registered here just to cause problems) it's for security reasons, it might seem like shady but if you think about it, it isn't, it's just for the security for the security of this forum

 

[honkpilleddoomer]

not even an ounce of knowledge purely a guess and probably not the only reason if i am right but my guess: to help keep annoying people away

That wouldn't be effective at all, most people have dynamic addresses that refresh whenever router is restarted or airplane mode is turned on. Unless the blocks are for the IP range then the blocks might be counterproductive as it could lock out others from registering who are on same IP range.

 

[Redhat83]

I don't know could just be fear tactics making it seem scary and dangerous by asking for your IP probably deters trolls and reporters idk probably also to stop people rejoining with different accounts too

 

[Kasumi]

while most ISP's switch up ur IP, they don't typically do that all the time, maybe once a week f.e.
So if one IP suddenly starts trying to apply for like 5 accounts thats sus, also if peoplle were to use a vpn than chances are that that would result in exactly that, multiple legitimate registrations, but all coming from the same IP, so in that case they would ban those thinking it's spam when it's legitimate users using a VPN, so the part about not using an VPN is actually to prevent you from getting banned mistakenly I believe.

 

[pasho25000]

yes it makes sense